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[REBOL] [ Re: rot13]

From: tek::wiw::org at: 14-Dec-2003 19:40

Hi. I sent this reply off promptly, but I was unable to send to the rebol list without a subscription. I hope that, before I am flooded with further chiding for how silly I was five years ago, you will read the below and not Cc me about this. And yes, I don't think I would say something like that now, though I still do not favor rebol. Cheers. ----- Forwarded message from Julian Squires <[tek--wiw--org]> ----- Delivered-To: [tek--wiw--org] Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2003 15:11:34 -0500 From: Julian Squires <[tek--wiw--org]> To: Joel Neely <[joel--neely--fedex--com]> Cc: [tek--wiw--org], [jkominek-rot13--miranda--org], [rebol-list--rebol--com] Subject: Re: rot13 In-Reply-To: <[3FDCC064--9050501--fedex--com]> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Hi. On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 01:56:20PM -0600, Joel Neely wrote:
> First, thank you for the effort you've put into the ROT13 page > at: > > > > With respect to your page on REBOL: > > > > and especially with respect to the "Note to others..." > > I suggest that it is unfair to condemn a programming language on > the strength of an overly complicated, poorly-written function by > someone who is clearly unfamiliar with the language. I can think > of several ways to write the rot13 conversion in a much more > natural-to-REBOL style.
FWIW, we've gotten this mail a number of times, over a number of years. Fine; submit your significantly nicer implementation and remove the foul stain from your language's honor. This was written at a time that rebol was going through a serious hypefest, so I wanted to check it out. Perhaps I gave it insufficient consideration before judgement; fair enough. Looking back on my implementation, it looks pretty hideous.
> Again, thanks for the comparisons, and I hope to offer the above > comments in the spirit of assistance, not negativism!
Yep, and I appreciate you taking that attitude, considering the affront to your MFTL. I just ask these two things: (and I keep the Cc to rebol-list for this reason, as you aren't the first...) 1) Stop emailing me. I don't care. I evaluated rebol again later, having learned more about similar languages, but I find ruby more suiting to my personal preferences. Email Jay, he maintains the page. (I know he's included in the Cc:) 2) Submit a full implementation, rather than providing hints on a good implementation. I'm sure that Jay will happily put your implementation first on the page, change the description of mine to ``a clumsy implementation'', or whatever you like. Cheers. (hoping to never have to hear about this again, and hoping to meet people under friendlier circumstances than language wars.) -- Julian Squires ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Julian Squires