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[REBOL] Re: What's Up Rebol?

From: chris:starforge:demon at: 6-Mar-2002 15:03

Jim Richards wrote: Yow, no wordwrap... ;)
> keep coming back to Rebol. Why? Because it is a brilliant work > of art. There is nothing out there that can compare to Rebols' > simplicity and uniqueness. So, I am forced to ask myself a lot > of questions.
Here's my take on some of them - note these probably are very contentious ;)
> Why aren't more programmers adopting the language? > Oh, and then there's "Rebol /Core [User Guide] You know the one
< without the index. The "Index" you know that indispensable thing
> as technicians that we refer to on a daily basis.
These two are, to an extent, interwined. One of th emajor factors involved is that it isn't free. Perl may be widely regarded as a Read Only Language, python may be a bit idiosyncratic, Ruby may be a bit rough around the edges. However, all three are free - you don't need a license to commercially deploy a python script, you don't have to buy a pro version of perl to run sendmail (with more on top if your script is going to be used commercially). Yes, people will use a tool that gets the job done faster even when they have to pay for it, which brings us to the second big problem: the complete dearth of decent REBOL documentation. No matter how good a lanugage is, it is useless without good documentation. Right now on the shelf next to me I have 8 perl books, and that is just a tiny fraction of the number of books there are out there. I have language specs, I have complete, indexed, searchable API documentation. For REBOL? I have a user guide that is out of date with poor indexing and the Official guide which, while fine for what it covers, isn't a great deal of help in many, many areas. If you're a script hack under pressure to get a job done and you have a choice between REBOL and it's non-existent docs, forced to rely on this list if you hit something you can't trial and error, or Perl with it's 17-rainforests worth of books, online tutorials, CPAN and the rest or python (which is getting the same way) or <insert any other free scripting lanugages out there> which would you choose, really? It'd be nice if it was REBOL, but too often it is more work to make a good REBOL solution than an adequate Perl one. To say nothing of what happens when you want a commercial script with Oracle database access, my boss couldn't stop laughing when I showed her the price for /command Until RT do something that justifies techs working to a buget blowing a fair chunk of it on a lanauge that doesn't do anything substantially different from the free tools already available the uptake is going to remain low., especially when getting the most out of the language is virtually impossible due to the lack of information.. Chris -- .------{ }-----. .--------------------------. =[ Explorer2260, Designer and Coder \=\ P: TexMaker, ROACH, site \ =[___You_will_obey_your_corporate_masters___]==[ Stack: EETmTmTRRSS------ ]