[REBOL] Re: Fw: REBOL/View/Pro licensing
From: ammoncooke:ya:hoo at: 14-Sep-2001 15:01
Encap has a pretty good lisencing scheme if you ask me. I would try to
explain it, but Cindy said it pretty good,
"For Developers who want to write REBOL applications for sale we have a
program that is called the REBOL Alliance. To become a member costs $499
per year which is used as an advance against a 10% royalty on products sold.
The Alliance includes a higher level of support, ability to brand your
product, and an encapsulation program which hides the REBOL API and your
source code. "
Now quoting Carl,
"Joining the Alliance will help in many ways, including the source code
to VID and other modules. You will also have direct access to us through
REBOL/Express, and joint projects can be done."
To me that is a great value, & I am running for it!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Tretter" <[ptretter--charter--net]>
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 12:30 PM
Subject: [REBOL] Fw: REBOL/View/Pro licensing
> Some licensing clarification for you developers. I responded to Cindy
expressing my dissatisfaction with the current licensing model in favor of
ENCAP for the same price. I had already bought a personal edition of /Pro
and paid the extra $99 for commercial distribution only to learn that if I
create a "killer app" that I have to tell the buyer that they must go to
RT's website and purchase /Pro. What does that mean? It means the
> I must sell my products at a lower price to remain competitive.
> I must inconvience buyers by directing them to purchase /Pro for
unlocking the /Pro features of my scripts in addition to purchasing my
> What would be the fix - just provide ENCAP to those people purchasing
commercial licenses. Its simple, I don't think I will get a good answer for
why that isn't the case. I would rather pass the cost of each encapsulated
application that I sell onto the buyer than to inconvience them this way.
> Paul Tretter
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Cindy Sassenrath
> To: Paul Tretter
> Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 2:02 PM
> Subject: Re: REBOL/View/Pro licensing
> Hi Paul,
> The REBOL/View/Pro license you bought is for your own commercial use, not
a distribution license.
> The "key" is what unlocks the PRO features. If your application does not
require any of the PRO features, you could sell you application and send a
copy of View with it.
> If your application does require the PRO features then your customers
would need a copy of View/Pro. This can be accomplished by either requiring
them to purchase a copy or by signing up for our REBOL Royalty program.
This program costs $499 per year which is an advance against a 10% royalty
on your gross receipts less transaction fees. This allows developers to
evaluation copies of their products and owe us nothing until
they make sales. This program gives you a copy of our Encap product that
allows you to encapsulate your scripts and REBOL/View/Pro into a single
binary protecting your source code and making installation easy. The
contract requires that the REBOL API not be accessible through your script.
> I hope this clears up any confusion. Please let me know if you have any
> Cindy Sassenrath
> REBOL Sales Support
> At 01:01 PM 9/14/01 -0500, you wrote:
> Hi Cindy,
> I have a question regarding the commercial licensing of REBOL/PRO. I
purchased a commercial license today. The licensing text says that I cannot
distribute the "key" with the any software. My question is how am I able to
sell my software and unlock the features of my scripts to the people I
distribute the software to? In other words will each buyer of my scripts be
required to "purchase" REBOL/Pro? If so, then I'm not sure I needed to buy
a commercial license. Please clarify the position on this as I am very
confused and would like to "earn", as you do, profits from the programming I
do without inconvenience to others that would like to buy my scripts by
telling them they must also purchase REBOL/PRO themselves. How is that