[REBOL] Re: vim again
From: tim::johnsons-web::com at: 28-Nov-2003 12:00
<G> Some irony here. Read on.
* Maxim Olivier-Adlhoch <[maximo--meteorstudios--com]> [031128 11:41]:
> > <sigh>Arguing over editors is *such* a waste of time. There's no
> > disputing taste.
> Not arguing... questioning, wondering why the 'powers that be' use it ;-)
> If I'm going to waste (read as curse ;-) tens of hours to be as
> efficient as I am in other editors I use, I have to get a hint of why
> I'd want to agravate myself on the short term. :-)
> I have used vi in the past and altough tell me its superior, I've yet to see anyone
actually using it properly, even after a while.
I use vim extensively and love it. And I've barely touched the surface
of it. The paradigm of modal editing (which allows one to use
keystrokes as enhancement) *is* an acquired taste and I would not
wish vim on anyone who didn't choose to learn it voluntarily.
Some people like point-and-click, others prefer the keyboard,
it's wonderful to have the option.
Without going into the details, it is to my advantage to learn
(x)emacs as well.
I feel that it would be helpful for those who have particular editors,
(whatever they may be...) To share information to help to make whatever editor
they have more productive.
For those of you using windows (I don't anymore for developement)
two I recommend are
In fact, regardless of the platform, it is worth investigating
(in my opinion), how to use rebol to make rebol editing easier.
> thanks for all answers, even those that are yet to come.
> I'm not saying utra edit pisses further than vim... I'm trying to see what color vim's
pee is ;-)
> sorry about that weird methaphor about the 'ol pissing contest ;-)
:-) You'd fit right in with Alaskan sourdoughs.
> > <grin>
> > The vim style of modal editing is ancient yes. But hugely efficient
> > and extendable.
> noted, thanks :-)
> > The lisp style of treating data and code the same wasy is ancient
> > yes. But hugely efficient and extendable.
> is the lisp way of thingking really older than its peers? I thought
> lisp was one of the more modern approaches to handling computing
LISP is just about the oldest of programming languages. It's almost
as old as I am. (Started about 1958, I think.
> as is reflected as how everyone (newer compilers and languages) is trying to get into
that select club
> > ------------------
> > | Rebol uses it. |
> > ------------------
> And that's why I use it too :-)
> > tim
> > (Has used 'em all)
> (Is coding one ;-)
Aha! See above. Using rebol to do it?
Tim Johnson <[tim--johnsons-web--com]>