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[REBOL] Re: Teaching Rebol => was:{Re: Re: Parsing comment}

From: tim:johnsons-web at: 28-Sep-2002 9:35

Hi Carl; * Carl Read <[carl--cybercraft--co--nz]> [020927 14:07]:
> My feeling is is that visual feedback is the quickest way to notice if > something's right or wrong. It's why we convert a mass of numbers > into a graph. The graph and the numbers are the same thing, it's > just that we need to see the graph before we can understand the > numbers.
We have thus far a lot of eye candy in the course content. I think it would be neat to have some view scripts that could be easily modified by a beginning student to give them some feedback...
> > What I would like to do is develop a scheme where even the starting > > students could render in CGI as well as the command line.... > > That would be a good approach. Wouldn't a local server on the > students' machine be one way of doing this? It could be one written > in REBOL so you'd have control of what it could and couldn't do.
The problem is infrastructure and the attitude of systems adminstrators, trying to solve that lllloooonnnngggg story!
> (Until the kids hacked it;)
<sigh>I only wish they could ...</sigh>
> > about my son-in-law who makes over a hundred grand a year for > > working 20 hours average a week. Who's treated like a god by his > > contractees, who wouldn't give Eminem, Steven Seagal or Michael > > Jordan a second look. That gets their attention... ;-) > > I can see that working with older students who're having to start > thinking about future employment, but I can't see it being much > motivation for kids under 14 or so.
I beg to differ, even eight graders get that one, we need good looking programmers and techies of both genders coming in to talk to kids here. Girls especially are infected with this weird idea that being into computers is very unsexy....
> I'd think it'd need tutors online 24/7 to be really effective, plus > instant messaging and the ability to share desktops. Tutors online > 24/7 is the hard part there I would think.
For those of you reading this, Carl took part in a mailing list that was set up for this class a year ago. It was terribly dead, we are trying a chat room now, but it will be staffed by the teacher of record and myself only one hour a week <sigh> and paranoid school sysops aren't letting anyone else in (so far). Progress, not perfection.... -- Tim Johnson <[tim--johnsons-web--com]> http://www.alaska-internet-solutions.com http://www.johnsons-web.com