[REBOL] Re: XML / dialects
From: petr:krenzelok:trz:cz at: 7-Jan-2002 14:01
Joel Neely wrote:
> Hi, Petr,
> Petr Krenzelok wrote:
> > Brett Handley wrote:
> > > What tools could be written to assist in the unpacking of XML
> > > documents/payloads into a REBOL dialect?
> > >
> > > Thoughts, corrections? :)
> > no tools. Rebol XML parser can't even be called parser by todays
> > standards. There is some nice piece of code from Kevin though,
> > but I don't know where to find link - maybe thru rebolforces or
> > just script library.
> I must disagree mildly. The built-in PARSE-XML was what got me to
> look at REBOL to begin with (although I agree with you that it's
> not a robust, industrial-strength parser). It was just enough to
> let me do some experiments with XML in a rapid-turnaround fashion.
OK, I know. I also know RT can't do everything themselves. But what about
- I am not skilled enough to program standards compliant parser myself
- I don't have enough free time to create one.
- If some manager inside our company looks at rebol site, he/she will not
find any features listed as: "support: XML 1.0, SOAP 1.0, UDDI, ebXML,"
etc. etc., so for such manager - Rebol simply does not support the
features, and argument of type - we can implement it ourselves don't
simply count for big boys ...
- we would eventually pay for the features coming with Command update,
along with other databases as PostGress, DB2, etc.
RT is currently focused on another market - collaborative one. That's
perfect, Rebol has strong potential there, but ... :-)
> There are links on http://www.REBOLforces.com to additional XML
> resources in REBOL.
> > I am currently reading the book about XML, SOAP and MS Bizztalk
> > server. BizTalk app framework seems to be open standard, and
> > there are examples in the book of how to create one, in some
> > language called OmniMark. Does anyone use that language? According
> > to book author, it is the best language he saw for streamed data
> > manipulation on web. Maybe he just doesn't know about Rebol yet :-)
> The company site is http://www.omnimark.com but I found my last
> visit very disappointing. There used to be info about the language
> itself, including free download for personal use, but now there's
> a press release about their having been "acquired" and a bunch of
> rah-rah marketing barking.
Yes, I looked there too. The book is rather new and it claims it comes
for free. It even uses the same arguments for using Omnimark instead of
Perl, as we use with Rebol :-)
My intention was to look at MS BizTalk app framework and create one in
Rebol, if it really comes for free, but I don't believe I am myself
capable enough bringing such complex task to life ...