[REBOL] Re: REBOL 3.0 mentioned on the blog!
From: petr:krenzelok:trz:cz at: 14-Mar-2006 10:37
> If we'd managed to get hosting companies interested in supporting REBOL it might've
been more popular now, but we didn't, and I think that window of opportunity is now gone.
If windows of opportunities is gone according to you, then why to be
afraid of some changes? RT can only surpirse us, no? :-)
> The buzz now is for online, in-browser apps, with the leading contender for dominance
being AJAX. (Which just uses a bunch of existing tech.) The REBOL plugin could be a
contender in that space, if only it was on all the popular browsers.
> Why will the proposed new features of REBOL 3 bring in more users? What will be its
What is its current market? Look - it is clear now, that Rebol 3 will
support some module/component architecture and that some of its parts
will even be open-sourced. That may speed-up some things and get us
rebol deployed into more real-life end-solutions. What is wrong with
my-task: make task! [some-code-here]? It could as well be just called
Core 2.8, but the changes will be so big, that it deserves to be called
3.0. That is of course my speculation, but from what was told during the
last few years, Rebol 3.0 will give us features we wanted for the long
And guys - who spreads the View OS-X non being available? From last I
heard, even if beta, it seems being stable enough, that e.g. Carl uses
AtlME on OS-X machine IIRC. Well, of course there are some things
unfinished, but if RT is focused, why to be scared of wait-and-see mode?
Core 2.0 was brought in 6 or so months? Or even less? Don't forget
please, that Rebol as a language is already here. We are mostly talking
new framework it is being deployed into. Tasking, probably new event
system, open interface to language extensibility, rewritten View, ready
for plug-ins etc etc.
I think we should wait for Carl to tell us more technical details, but
from what I heard, there will be more than one dedicated coder working
on Rebol 3.0 full-time ;-) I hope it is not just noise but actually
truth .... and if so, I expect first beta to be awailable at the end of
the year, and it is imo the pessimistic variant! And if Rebol 3.0
underlying architecture opens rebol for the community to help with some
open sourced components, if it allows better async, tasking behavior,
new things, which are not even easily possible now, will come! And if
so, it is imo worth it.
As for browser plug-ins - just give me ONE C coder with a bit of free
time. I gathered MOST of the info into plug-ins Altme group, and I can
repost it here (maybe I even did, do not remember now), about how to get
NS compatible plug-in implemented. It would cover Mozilla/FF, Netscape,
Opera at least. And it is imo not more than wrapping some 20 - 30 funcs
at max. It can be done, but RT wanted us to help here. It is us who was
not able to do it yet ...