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From: greg:schofield:iinet:au at: 21-Aug-2008 18:40

Henrik sorry I did not reply earlier. I have read through your post twice, some things I get and others I don't. But what you suggest could be way better than what I had in mind. I cannot really judge, if you read my post to Max, I try to explain that it is not just a matter of making it easier, but a matter of extending REBOL solutions to different classes of computer users. The illustration you use (R3):
>> words-of my-object
== [self name address street age] Is a great example of something very different to what I had in mind, that really helps. Your CVS example as well as being a more function orientated approach is close to what I had in mind, and of course you are right it is all about getting the right level of generalization. If the thing is thought about in terms of engaging a different level of computer user, without confining them to a dumbed-down version, but as a legitmate doorway in REBOL that to me seems to be a real problem that is need of a solution. I will not clutter up this elist with more general stupidities than I can help, I would like to encourage people to think along the lines of REBOL-simple as a legitimate goal. I am sure if a real solution is made it will not resemble anything much I have in mind (which is a good thing). When you say: By using mezzanines to simply the language in general you can increase readability and reduce visible complexity. We just have to find sufficiently generic cases to solve and carefully pick which ones to implement. I feel you are spot on. Most of it is about removing visible complexity, and should not be a part of R3 itself. If the right generic mix is produced then that is a very simple way for novices to get started doing non-trivial scripting in a simple way (not necessarily a code efficient way -- but computers are faster these days, perceived speed is not often effected). Bundle this up in a sensible and comprehensible way and you have the everybody's interface to REBOL and no barrier to using REBOL proper. Thank you Henrik. Greg Schofield Perth Australia --- Message Received --- From: Henrik Mikael Kristensen <> To: Reply-To: Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 12:01:11 +0200