[REBOL] Re: IOS account (was RE: Re: Is this a bug ([5 <])?)
From: petr:krenzelok:trz:cz at: 22-Nov-2002 8:34
Ingo Hohmann wrote:
> Hi Petr,
> Petr Krenzelok wrote:
>> Ingo Hohmann wrote:
>> > Hi Oldes,
>> > I'm normally not in the "me too" business, but that'been exactly, what
>> > I always wanted to say about IOS.
>> > Well, the shortcomings of the "experts" are simply that they aren't
>> > used, but I guess they _could_ be usefull.
>> > But you are living right about conference - it doesn't even scale to
>> > busy days among the few people using it. Anything without threading is
>> > useless on larger discussion volumes.
>> I am not so sure here... It is chat, not some "stupid" off-line ml. I
>> remember my heavy usage of IRC and threading in on-line chat would
>> completly fail ...
> I don't know, I never chatted. But I'm not able to follow the
> conference on busy days. And the stupid remark is from you - does this
> mean anything? :-)
Yes, it means something. I used "stupid", in quotes, as compare the
feeling one gets from being long time chat user vs long time ml user.
Both system have its place here, but why should I explain it to someone,
who admits he "never chatted"? ;-))
Well, I do remember few IRC sessions, moderated, where even Carl was
available. It was some big Amiga event, hundreds of ppl at IRC channel.
Ppl are in-touch one with each other. But the experience comes, only if
you try it ...
>> Yes, some features are missing, but business related
>> ones ... e.g. ability to flag message to some topic for central
>> knowledge-base usage etc. What I am worried about however, is IOS
>> scalability - it has really its limits for quite low amount of users.
>> Some time ago Carl told us, that RT solved that problem, but it was
>> not introduced to IOS yet. Maybe on other servers, I don't know ...
> Hope to see it soon.
Yes, I would like too, if Carl could possibly drop a note here :-)
>>> It should be easy to add threading, though. But still, it wouldn't
>>> be as accesible as a mailing list.
> You would need to be "in" to be "in" - use Rebol to some extent to be
> able to get to the list, use something additionally to your mailer (I
> guess nearly everyone with access to the web uses email).
So you comment your own words? ;-)
>> We just need to stabilise a bit. Some developers invest
>> tens of hours into the stuff, as free time permits them to do so. They
>> test, I test, I give a feedback.
> Could be a problem with my install - all my files are from around
> july. They _are_ flagged as "not in sync" but that happens so often, I
> don't pay much attention any more.
It should not happend. Why do you give up? Are you talking about
Evaluation or Developer server. There is plenty of developers from here
in the Developer server area and noone reporting problems like you
describe ... Yes, if you have not logged for too long, it will take some
time to sync-up once again, but that's what is syncing all about - to
get to actual state of things ....
>> Romano and Cyphre can tell you, that I
>> will not agree to something less than realtime. Said that, AltMe would
>> NOT go thru my QA service ;-)
>> You can await powerfull and auto-resize system in beta hopefully next
>> week ... we can release to ml, if ppl are interested. I think, that
>> especially for auto-resize system, ppl should test it, as RT is not
>> sure about its addition to VID.It would be good to have feedback from
>> more ppl ...
> I've seen some of the examples: I like it! It should be added to vid,
IMO too ... and we will propose resize system once again to RT ....