[REBOL] Re: Flames, hype, offended vanity
From: cyphre:seznam:cz at: 22-Feb-2002 18:09
Well, you probably didn't understand my response or maybe my english is too
bad. I didn't (want) write nothing against you, your ideas, the competition
itself... I just wanted to point out that I won't be participated on the
compo because it would seem like *I* am stealing the idea of Allen's compo
and do it with you instead of with Allen. That's all ;-)
I hope there will be plenty of demos in the near future from people around
the list so my presence in this event is unimportant.
I'm sorry, if my response sounded like flame to you.
DEMO or DIE!
----- Original Message -----
From: "X" <[rebolek--seznam--cz]>
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 1:43 PM
Subject: [REBOL] Flames, hype, offended vanity
Hello all and Cyphre,
OK. This is REBOL list. I know it but I can't help myself. I just
thought that something good can be started but it's same again and
again. I didn't know you were working on something like that with Allen
K. That idea came to me so I wrote mail to list. That was all. Night
after when you came home we were talking about that and I do not
remember your words exactly but we were talking about some sort of
cooperation. Please, Cyphre, read my mail again - there is written
is/will be partially helping with some technical stuff
you/aren't you/won't you be? Or do you think that "technical stuff"
means "stealing ideas" ?
If you feel like victim - and I seem like criminal - why didn't you told
it directly to me? Is it necessary to discuss this on mailing list? If
Allen told you something bad - get him in contact with me I hope I can
explain it. It's not your fault - but I still do not know why wrote that
mail. Who knows you and Allen K. were working on something simmilar?
You, Allen. K and who else? Was it published somewhere? I do not know -
so if it's between you, Allen K. and me why do you feel it is SO
IMPORTANT to discuss this on mailing list?
I never wanted to uncover myself. As I wrote, it can be driven by a
script. I just wanted to gain some good demos - that's good for everyone
because we can learn something from other's work. And I like eye-candies
too. I won't have any profit and I must invest my time (and some money
for Internet connection). I though it can be done only for fun. But what
reactions came? Uncover yourself! Who are you?! or I'm victim! My name
is damned forever! And - no demos.
O.K. I'm not giving up (even when I think that no demos will be sent to
me) but I've learn something. Some people behave little bit paranoic -
they're seeking some hidden things where nothing's hidden.
The world's still turning in the same direction - it's good to remember.
Bye, reBolek (that bad guy who's stealing ideas)
P.S.: Richarde, jestli ches s Allenem delat nejakou soutez, tak ju
klidne udelejte, kdyz jich bude treba deset, tim lip. Ale skutecne sem
rekl neco tak nepresnyho, zavadejiciho, lzivyho, ze to musis ventilovat
na listu a nemuzes mne to rict doma osobne? Musim rict ze sem to od tebe
fakt necekal a prijde me to jako podpasovka. Pokud ti slo o to, zabit tu
soutez, tak mam pocit, ze se ti to timhle mailem podarilo. Vis, ze to
nedelam kvuli nehynouci slave pro sebe a sve pokoleni, tak ze mne
nemusis delat tady na listu krivaka, ale muzeme to snad vyresit nejak
I must say that I *didn't promise* you any help or technical support
with your competition. Some time ago I planned to participate on
simmilar idea with Allen Kamp and now it looks like I stole him the idea
and collaborate with you. But this is simply *not true*. It looks like
you and Allen came with the simmilar idea at almost the same time and
now I feel like a victim of this random accident. Therefore, it will be
better to dissociate from this competition - neither participate nor
---- Original Message -----
From: "REBOL/DEMOn" <[reboldemo--seznam--cz]>
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 9:38 AM
Subject: [REBOL] Re: REBOL/Demo 2002 Competition
...my name is Boleslav Brezovsky aka reBolek. The whole thing is my idea
and I have several reasons for this. Richard Smolak (Cyphre) is/will be
partially helping me with some technical stuff. I think that my demos
cannot be part of competition but Cyphre is not counting voices and so I
think his demos CAN be part of it. Of course I'll write something but
just as bonus.
We are in no way involved with REBOL Technologies but if they want to
support us they're welcome (We haven't contacted them yet as no demos
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