[REBOL] [ALLY] Email and Proxies Re:(2)
From: christmn:clackamas:ds:adp at: 31-Aug-2000 11:06
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Rebol does do all that you expound on. Check out http://www.rebol.com/docs/network.html
Every protocol can have its own, proxy :: port :: type :: userid:: password :: bypass
rules.
It appears that you are just setting your system/schemes/default/proxy settings and not
defining any of the individual protocols - system/schemes/smtp/proxy, etc. In the absence
of
defining any individual protocol settings, rebol then uses the default settings. In addition,
if
you want to entirely disable proxy settings for a particular scheme, you can set the
proxy settings
to false.
----- Original Message -----
From: [greg_piney--mcgraw-hill--com]
To: [list--rebol--com]
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2000 10:14 AM
Subject: [REBOL] [ALLY] Email and Proxies Re:
Wrong answer.
My SMTP server is 'local' on the WAN. It appears
that all IP traffic gets routed to the proxy
if you define it in set-net. Our cern proxy is a
proxy, not a firewall. We use a 'pac' file for
routing. This 'pac' file is usually loaded into
the Browser as part of auto configuration. The
browser can then determine which addresses are
'direct' (no proxy - on the WAN). All other addresses are
sent to the proxy. This is a pretty standard
setup for a large corporation.
The real answer here is that Rebol should not
proxy a service unless proxy is defined for that
service. Especially those a 'cern' proxy doesn't
handle. By default, only HTTP, FTP, and gopher
should be sent to a proxy. All other services should
be sent direct unless a SOCKS proxy is defined for
that service.
Greg Piney
S&P Web Engineering
Terrence Brannon <[princepawn--MailAndNews--com]> on 08/31/2000 10:45:04 AM
To: Greg Piney/McGraw-Hill/[US--MCGRAW-HILL]
cc: [ally--rebol--com]
Subject: RE: [REBOL] [ALLY] Email and Proxies
[holger--rebol--com] sent a msg to the REBOL list about 2-3 days ago stating that
you cannot access external smtp servers across a cern firewall, only socks4 or
socks5
Here is the URL to his archived msg.
http://rebol.org/userlist/archive/315/656.html
>===== Original Message From [greg_piney--mcgraw-hill--com] =====
>[greg_piney--mcgraw-hill--com] on 08/29/2000 03:27:56 PM
>Please respond to [ally--rebol--com]
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>
>
>To: [ally--rebol--com]
>cc: (bcc: Greg Piney/McGraw-Hill/US)
>
>Subject: [ALLY] Email and Proxies
>
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>Holger,
>
>I was trying to show off Rebol and ran into either a bug or my own stupidity.
>
>I was trying to send a simple email (one liner) to show some people
>how powerful Rebol is. It failed.
>After about an hour I found out why.
>
>I recently changed my 'user.r' to use generic (Cern) proxy. We are behind a
>Netscape Proxy server. This proxy server does not allow mail out. Mail is
>handled by another machine. Most mail clients do not talk to the proxy
>server at all. The reason why I say this is that I changed my 'set-net'
>to go to the socks server and all was well. Works like the Champ that
>it is. Something tells me you need a 'proxy/noproxy' setting in SMTP.
>Or, it really is some kind of bug.
>
>TIA,
>
>Greg Piney
>Standard and Poor's Web Engineering
terrence-brannon: [
[princepawn--yahoo--com] perl-refugee myth-gamer]
free-email: http://www.MailAndNews.com
free-usenet: http://www.mailAndNews.com
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Rebol does do all that you expound on. Check out <A
href="http://www.rebol.com/docs/network.html">http://www.rebol.com/docs/network.html</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Every protocol can have its own, proxy :: port :: type ::
userid:: password :: bypass rules.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>It appears that you are just setting your
system/schemes/default/proxy settings and not</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>defining any of the individual protocols -
system/schemes/smtp/proxy, etc. In the absence of</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>defining any individual protocol settings, rebol then uses the
default settings. In addition, if</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>you want to entirely disable proxy settings for a particular
scheme, you can set the proxy settings</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>to false.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=
[greg_piney--mcgraw-hill--com]
href="mailto:
[greg_piney--mcgraw-hill--com]">
[greg_piney--mcgraw-hill--com]</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=
[list--rebol--com]
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[list--rebol--com]</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, August 31, 2000 10:14
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [REBOL] [ALLY] Email and Proxies
Re:</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT><BR></DIV>Wrong answer.<BR>My SMTP server is 'local'
on the WAN. It appears<BR>that all IP traffic gets routed to the proxy<BR>if
you define it in set-net. Our cern proxy is a<BR>proxy, not a firewall. We use
a 'pac' file for<BR>routing. This 'pac' file is usually loaded into<BR>the
Browser as part of auto configuration. The<BR>browser can then determine which
addresses are<BR>'direct' (no proxy - on the WAN). All other addresses
are<BR>sent to the proxy. This is a pretty standard<BR>setup for a large
corporation.<BR>The real answer here is that Rebol should not<BR>proxy a
service unless proxy is defined for that<BR>service. Especially those a 'cern'
proxy doesn't<BR>handle. By default, only HTTP, FTP, and gopher<BR>should be
sent to a proxy. All other services should<BR>be sent direct unless a SOCKS
proxy is defined for<BR>that service.<BR><BR>Greg Piney<BR>S&P Web
Engineering<BR><BR>Terrence Brannon <<A
href="mailto:
[princepawn--MailAndNews--com]">
[princepawn--MailAndNews--com]</A>
> on
08/31/2000 10:45:04 AM<BR><BR><BR><BR>To: Greg <A
href="mailto:Piney/McGraw-Hill/
[US--MCGRAW-HILL]">Piney/McGraw-Hill/
[US--MCGRAW-HILL]</A><BR>cc:
<A href="mailto:
[ally--rebol--com]">
[ally--rebol--com]</A><BR><BR>Subject: RE:
[REBOL] [ALLY] Email and Proxies<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><A
href="mailto:
[holger--rebol--com]">
[holger--rebol--com]</A> sent a msg to the REBOL
list about 2-3 days ago stating that<BR>you cannot access external smtp
servers across a cern firewall, only socks4 or<BR>socks5<BR><BR>Here is the
URL to his archived msg.<BR><BR><A
href="http://rebol.org/userlist/archive/315/656.html">http://rebol.org/userlist/archive/315/656.html</A><BR><BR>>=====
Original Message From <A
href="mailto:
[greg_piney--mcgraw-hill--com]">
[greg_piney--mcgraw-hill--com]</A>
=====<BR>>
[greg_piney--mcgraw-hill--com] on 08/29/2000 03:27:56
PM<BR>>Please respond to <A
href="mailto:
[ally--rebol--com]">
[ally--rebol--com]</A><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>To:
<A href="mailto:
[ally--rebol--com]">
[ally--rebol--com]</A><BR>>cc: (bcc: Greg
Piney/McGraw-Hill/US)<BR>><BR>>Subject: [ALLY] Email and
Proxies<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>Holger,<BR>><BR>>I was
trying to show off Rebol and ran into either a bug or my own
stupidity.<BR>><BR>>I was trying to send a simple email (one liner) to
show some people<BR>>how powerful Rebol is. It failed.<BR>>After about
an hour I found out why.<BR>><BR>>I recently changed my 'user.r' to use
generic (Cern) proxy. We are behind a<BR>>Netscape Proxy server. This proxy
server does not allow mail out. Mail is<BR>>handled by another machine.
Most mail clients do not talk to the proxy<BR>>server at all. The reason
why I say this is that I changed my 'set-net'<BR>>to go to the socks server
and all was well. Works like the Champ that<BR>>it is. Something tells me
you need a 'proxy/noproxy' setting in SMTP.<BR>>Or, it really is some kind
of bug.<BR>><BR>>TIA,<BR>><BR>>Greg Piney<BR>>Standard and
Poor's Web Engineering<BR><BR>terrence-brannon: [
[princepawn--yahoo--com]
perl-refugee myth-gamer]<BR>free-email: <A
href="http://www.MailAndNews.com">http://www.MailAndNews.com</A><BR>free-usenet:
<A href="http://www.mailAndNews.com">http://www.mailAndNews.com</A><BR>; all
the above is real REBOL code, believe it or
not.<BR><BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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