[REBOL] Re: Who read this mailing list?
From: petr::krenzelok::seznam::cz at: 23-Nov-2007 9:00
Carl Read napsal(a):
> On Friday, 23-Novenber-2007 at 7:34:18 Petr Krenzelok wrote,
>> Tim Johnson napsal(a):
>>> On Thursday 22 November 2007, Alessandro Manotti wrote:
>>>> I was following all the discussions made in these days in this mailing
>>>> list, and... I asked to myself: is there any RT member (official member)
>>>> that read these emails?
>>> <chuckle> We're waiting to find out with bated breath. </chuckle>
>>> The PL that I consider an alternative to rebol is newlisp. If you look at
>>> their forum, you will see that Lutz Miller - the developer of newlisp -
>>> participates almost daily in the community.
>> Noone reads ML this days probably. Don't get me wrong, although we are
>> used to, ML is absolutly arcane way of communication, slow.
> But for discussions, slow is good. Thoughtful responses are those which have been
mulled over for a few hours or days. Instant ones are off-the-top-of-the-head ones.
Useful if someone's already given the topic a lot of thought, but not if it's a new
topic to them.
> And this ML has a nice, searchable, public archive. (Or 3.) Can you point me to archived
discussions on these other channels regarding, say, which OSs get R3 first, and which
are to follow. Or one discussing how the 'hybrid' closed/open-source approach was arrived
at and why it's thought it'll work. And what the definition of 'working' will be under
> And I'm sure others can think of other discussions they'd like to read through too
- if they're available.
> -- Carl Read.
I work as chief of IT, I run various meetings, team meetings/projects
for ten years, and what you try to suggest is - we should abandon
meetings, because the communication is instat, and you don't have time
to think about what you want to say, and you can't have transcript of
who said what? :-) Meeting is for those who meet, so sorry for others
not being present. The same goes for AltME. You are there, or you are
not there :-) (there is some transcript of web-public rebol3 world
though, although not threaded ...)
Look, historically, although rather young, I remembe BBS, then newsnet,
then ML, then IRC, ICQ, IOS, AltME, web forums. Each way of
communication has its (dis)advantages. You have to use them for some
time to "feel" the difference. E.g., I remember old IOS Developer's
time. There is nothing out there even remotely aproaching the
collaborative meeting, with auto syncing, private or public. That was
whole space to breath. ML is not even 5% of that feeling. Besided that,
I am used to be on several MLs, I like email. But, I have friends, who
will not subscribe to any ML to just have one question answered. For
them it is the same barrier as for some ppl to join AltME. Those ppl
will prefer anonymous web forums. Everyone of us has its own
preferences, but imo RT, trying to quickly colaborate on R3 development,
chose the right channel - ML is too slow.