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[REBOL] Re: Laccio Framework >> PD PureData inspiration

From: ale870:gma:il at: 22-Aug-2007 23:08

Thank you! I will start to study ;-) I will look at it, to evaluate if it could be an "inspiration" for me (I could get the same philosophy, concepts, etc...) and implement them in Rebol, or I could try to create a direct interface! On 8/22/07, Jason Cunliffe <jasonic-nomadics.org> wrote:
> > Alessandro Manotti wrote: > > Hello Jason, > > > > I not yet red your links (I will do as soon as possible !). > > If I understood what you say (I'm sorry, I'm Italian, and sometimes > english > > language could be not so clear for me!) you think I could implement > > something to let the components communicate one with each other in a > easy > > way? > > > > > Yes.. > > 1) I believe PD PureData offers a superb interface metaphor/paradigm for > your components and for Rebol3. > > 2) PD has an open source API. That means *someones* [not me alas] could > write a Rebol interface to PD. > Then all sorts of cool modeling could happen very quickly, including > hopefully engaging a larger very creative community of > programmer-musicians-experimental innovators. > One could also join the rebol parts via PD to lots of others... yay! > Ruby Python and other languages have been used to write PD patches. In > general this is because people want to do something in PD and use the > language they know and love. > However, it can also work the other way around -- I'd call it "host > system and interface symbiosis" ... > > The Wiki for PD API is > http://www.puredata.org/docs/developer/PdAPI > > and one example using that, which I just found googling is > http://www.le-son666.com/software/pdj/ > PDJ enables you to write java code to interact with pure-data objects. > > another ... > mxdublin a Java/Python framework that can be used to sequence generic > events within pure-data or max. > http://le-son666.com/software/mxdublin/ > uses Jython = Python implementation written in Java << ouch wow cool > > 3) The design philosophy is very familiar--- PD REBOL Laccio > fertile ground I think. > > 4) I also imagine/hope that a PD-inspired interface could be written in > 100% rebol -- actually R3 [rebol3] probably best. > That would mean a light, fast, 100% rebol graphic interactive user > interface toolkit could support inter-component inter-system > communications and instrument building. > beautifully so :-) -- many advantages including opening access to > non-rebol programmers USE of such tools. > > 5) You might find this is perfect -- or too much, but inspiring none the > less I hope. > > 6) A delightful design feature of PD is that PD files ["patches" they > are called] are just simple TEXT files - interpreted by the PD > environment as dynamic interface. > You have to install and play with it to understand what I am talking > about really. It's a rich universe and thriving community. > But here's an example from the interactive user Manual when you install > the software. > > 'patch' = a file called 04.messages.pd > If you open that in PD it looks like this screen shot [but it works] > If you open in a text editor it look just like this: > > #N canvas 0 0 595 446 12; > #X floatatom 225 110 0 0 0 0 - - -; > #X floatatom 184 109 0 0 0 0 - - -; > #X msg 184 56 5 6; > #X floatatom 132 108 0 0 0 0 - - -; > #X floatatom 64 105 0 0 0 0 - - -; > #X text 30 21 Most Pd messages are just numbers or short lists of numbers: > ; > #X msg 64 55 5; > #X obj 64 80 + 9; > #X obj 132 83 +; > #X obj 184 84 unpack; > #X msg 288 55 5; > #X obj 288 107 print; > #X obj 288 81 pack 34 78; > #X msg 132 55 5 6; > #X floatatom 195 328 0 0 0 0 - - -; > #X obj 195 303 +; > #X msg 195 254 1.2 3.4; > #X msg 205 277 5 6; > #X text 36 206 Unlike Max \, in Pd all numbers are floating point. > Numbers whose values happen to be integers are displayed without decimal > points.; > #X text 31 363 For more on messages \, get help on any message box > by right-clicking.; > #X text 329 409 updated for Pd release 0.33; > #X text 34 149 If you send a list to an object with more than one inlet > \, the items in the list are spread out over the inlets \, as seen > in the 5+6 example above.; > #X connect 2 0 9 0; > #X connect 6 0 7 0; > #X connect 7 0 4 0; > #X connect 8 0 3 0; > #X connect 9 0 1 0; > #X connect 9 1 0 0; > #X connect 10 0 12 0; > #X connect 12 0 11 0; > #X connect 13 0 8 0; > #X connect 15 0 14 0; > #X connect 16 0 15 0; > #X connect 17 0 15 0; > > hope this makes sense > regards > Jason > > -- > To unsubscribe from the list, just send an email to > lists at rebol.com with unsubscribe as the subject. >
-- //Alessandro http://sguish.wordpress.com http://laccio.wordpress.com