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[REBOL] Re: About View "Skinz" Contest

From: atruter:hih:au at: 26-Feb-2002 12:05

Since no-one else seems to have taken the bait ;) <SNIP>Winamp is for Windows and Mac. It's true that 'many' people use windows, but I don't know how you can make an Mp3 player for view without multiplying the effort times the number of OS's people use/want. And I'll explain why it's a waste of time trying...</SNIP> The "browse" command is an example of a good way to invoke an external service without regard to OS or utility provider. Perhaps a "play" command . . . <SNIP>I couldn't care less if MS went under tomorrow, or if it became the only OS out there. Frankly, I never cared about Apple one iota. They sold nice, incredibly expensive PC's that no average person could afford. If Apple had a cheap clone back in those days, there would'nt be an MS today. Now they, Apple, have 2.3% of the market. 2.3 PERCENT? Who are these people?</SNIP> I use Windows and *nix and plan on getting an iMac. I like having a choice as to what hardware, OS and software I purchase, use and develop for. Note that "cheap" PC's are an illusion. Each category of component changes regularly on a 6 month cycle with most consumers "compelled" to upgrade after falling a generation or two behind. Add to this the cost of versioning whereby most software vendors encourage you to upgrade software every two years or so. It always amazes me how much someone actually pays to write a document on a PC (the most commonly quoted reason for having a PC). Did the upgrade from Win95 to Win98 to WinME to Win2000 to WinXP with the matching office upgrades from Office95 to Office97 to Office2000 to OfficeXP really enable a document to be written any faster / better? What is the true cost of each document? (total cost of upgrades divided by actual number of documents written). <SNIP>All I care about is "What are people using today?" and what OS should I make software for first?</SNIP> Which people? If I'm writting software for puiblishing or multi-media folks I'd want to make sure it runs on a Mac. Server software better run on *nix. Client side software better run on Windows. Different strokes for different folks. <SNIP>So, to answer that question lets turn to the facts... Here's a great site to do just that called "Geeks with Guns" According to these stats, the Windows OS counts for 94.3%, Mac at 2.3%, Linux 2% and Unix 0.3% with all the rest at 1.0%</SNIP> I hope this wasn't just a plug for the NRA. Take a look at, according to THESE stats 60% of web servers are running Apache, 30% Microsoft. A survey 5 years ago I came across stated that 95% of the world's data is stored on IBM systems. Over 40% of the world's DB's are Oracle. What does all this prove? That there are many ways of looking at IT and that there are many "markets" within it. The whole Microsoft, Mac, Linux thing is only one aspect of it (the Desktop / Server OS). <SNIP>Someone earlier complained about a floating frame on my website. Floating frames are cool, but only work with IE, and considering that IE counts for 93% of all browsers out there, I'm willing, at this time, to abandon the 7% of the rest. Then there's one more reason for Netscape users to abandon it.</SNIP> One small thing to note is that mobile computing device (especially phone) growth is faster than PC growth. Many of these devices (including consumer devices such as fridges) are increasingly internet enabled. IE may have 93% of the PC market now, but you won't find IE being part of too many embedded devices (Opera is doing quite well in that market segment). Microsoft loves it when people use it's proprietary extensions and file formats as it locks people into using their products and paying for their upgrades, but that's your choice. <SNIP>At this time, for better or worse, Microsoft is the defacto standard. If you are creating software for any other OS, you have seriously gimped your market share. (Unless your creating something that is lacking in the other OS, of which there is plenty... including Winamp)</SNIP> It depends on what segment you are aiming for. If I am writing software for server management / web mastering, etc it is likely that I will target *nix. If I developing / maintaining software for my local bank it is highly unlikely to be Microsoft! <SNIP>This is not about which OS is better, this is about why even you, yes you.. are using MS products. And don't tell me you don't, cause the numbers speak for themselves.</SNIP> When I write a document I use MS*Word. When I surf the net or email I use Opera (which avoids 90% of viruses - most of which are Outlook or IE dependant, see for details). When I use an ATM or fly a plane I hope to hell it is NOT using bugware from Redmond. Funny thing about numbers though, if 100 people in my company are sitting in front of a Wintel box accessing corporate apps on a mainframe or *nix box, then we obviously have 100 Windows users, but do we also have 100 *nix users. According to most surveys the true answer is that users = boxen so we have 100 Windows users and 1 *nix "user". I also know that if I write software for Windows I am competing against every Tom, Dick and Harry so (unless I write for a niche area) I can't charge more than US$100 a copy. When I write custom software for *nix the asking price is as high as US$70,000 per copy (If you think this is excessive then ask yourself if you would really want your bank keeping your financial records with the latest version of EZY*Banking Pro for $10 from CNET). <SNIP>PS - Windows XP sucks. Don't know about Linux, haven't used it... probably sucks too.</SNIP> WindowsXP is based on the NT/2000 kernel and is infinitely better than the DOS legacy-based Win95, Win98, WinME line. I like the product, but not the way it is licensed - but that's my choice. Regards, Ashley