[REBOL] Re: DBF
From: petr::krenzelok::trz::cz at: 1-Nov-2001 22:11
James Marsden wrote:
>>MS-Access is crap :-)
>Not so - for its intended purpose there is nothing as rapid that I have
>found on the market and thats in 8 years of database development.
>Sure its sucks in a few areas but I have yet to see a better IDE for a
>Have you seen Access XP?
No, I don't use such tools at all. I remember Access as opponent to
Lotus Aproach. But - problem is, that I prefer stand-alone apps, not
some installed bloated IDEs, with run-time support. I remember few years
ago one customer leaving VO in favor of Access. Well, we laughed on the
other end of phone - as those were the ppl calling themselves profi
Of course you can do many things with Aproach. But I somehow hate to use
predefined templates. I don't like Windows dependency too. I mean -
dependency upon product behavior - can you catch events in Aproach, so
that enter or arrows will allow you to move between the fields and
buttons, esc leaves screen, enter on browse enters form, etc.? I always
have to laough, once I see primitive browser, featuring VCR like buttons
for mouse click to go one record down, one record up, etc., as from user
perspective, it is completyl nonsense ...
Maybe I am just too much concentrated on "heavy" database stuff, where
each unwanted user interaction with UI denerves our users ...
>>There is few tools/viewers to work with .dbf, very advanced ones. .DBF
>>is however supported also by Excel, and natively supported by languages
>>as Delphi, VO, Clipper, FoxPro, VB (IIRC, maybe indirectly), etc.
>VB Support for .pdf is third party only. ;-)
PDF? I was not talking pdf :-)
>>However - once you want to get to shared dbase app, better forget data
>>integrity and speed. You will be probably better with some free or not
>>so expensive SQL solutions - mySQL (lacking transactions, and so not
>>suitable for us), or PostGres SQL.
>MySQL since version 3.23 has supported transactions if you use the InnoDB
>table format. Transaction support is guarenteed from mySQL 4.0 up (still in
I know about it. I just contacted my friend heavily using both
solutions, and he still prefers postGress. I recomended him to look at
alpha mySQL 4.0 and he told me it is sometimes unstable, and reading
thru docs you could find things like "if this doesn't work, try to
comment this .." etc. stuff ...
But I agree, that in many cases, mySQL is great dbms ...
btw: as for Linux, you could probably even try Sybase 11 or so, - it is
free, and features e.g. stored procedures ... (or so I was told)
as for Rebol, it would be good if mySQL or any other database could be
run from one .exe with some parameters (path to databases, configs), to
be portable without installation :-)