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From: sunandadh:aol at: 15-Mar-2003 5:03

Hi there (didn't spot a name in the email) [was REBOL Flash and Browsers]
> If you want to push Rebol, get it working with > messages and email in or with the browser > along with it's own desktop browser with xml, > xhtml, and it will be noticed.
Sounds like you've been quietly plugging away in the background doing some great work!! Any chance of publishing some of the tools you've developed? I spend about 20% of my IT time working with things like Cocoon. XML, XSLT, stuff like that. That's a serious happening world, and it is all centered on XML. <aside>Personally, I'm not that happy about XML. It's hierarchical, and the world is making many of the same mistakes that IBM made 30 years ago with its hierarchical database IMS (I hope I'm the only one on this list sad enough to remember virtual-logical child pointers and the other heroics needed to merge two hierarchies built upside down from each other. XSLT's axes feel horribly familiar after that). We were saved from hierarchical data by the relational model (not that that's perfect -- but that's another story).</aside> Vast swathes of the world's more active data is moving to XML. A language that doesn't support XML in the same seamless manner that it supports flat files is going to look very quaint before long. The REBOL community has developed a few tools, but as Bryan wrote the other day "I think RT has voiced the attitude that Rebol is also data and this seems to have led it to look down on xml." If true, that's a real pity. REBOL could be just the silver bullet the XML world needs to make handling XML a joy rather than about as fun as hand-carving HTML (I do a lot of that too). But at the moment there is almost no overlap between the two worlds. Or so I thought until I saw your post!! Maybe there's hope for us yet :-) Sunanda.