[REBOL] Re: rebol-framework: information
From: robert:muench:robertmuench at: 29-Dec-2002 19:30
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> yes, that is what I had in mind ...
:-)) fine!
> ... which I personally find pretty messy aproach to UI .... myriads of
> separate windows - confusion.
I agree and should have to be more specific. I just like the basic
concept of "naked objects" in that you see the same data object like the
computer sees it. I don't like the GUI approach too. IMO a further good
idea is to just offer the functions that make sense in an actual context
(for objects of type X, for objects with association of type X and value
of Y of Z... Etc.)
> User enters data to one certain form at a time. Concepts like
> drag & drop in database apps are imo utopia and distract user
> from fast work - keyboard rules :-)
I totally agree and be sure not to see a MDI application or any
mouse-orgy action needed to do what you want.
> and what if others have complete different idea of how to represent
data
> and their relations in UI?
Well than write your own GUI for it. I hate learning trillions of GUIS,
usage patterns etc. just because nobody follows a simple KISS rule. I
just don't want to remember all the menues etc. The GUI must support
useability and fast working experience... Fancy stuff can be added
later.
> If RFM can't provide such functionality separation), it kills its
usability.
We will see ;-)
> What if someone will want to use it via web based forms e.g.?
Web based forms? I really don't like Web-Applications. To me it's a
completely missuse of a publishing concept. But we will see if and how a
Web front-end can be added to RFM.
> Anyway, I will have to wait and see, that's the best thing I can do
> right now ...
I hope it won't take to long for a new release....
> yes, but RFM already offers also GUI. So what will happen with IOS
> desktop and its reblets?
The desktop will stay there but the Reblets... Well I won't need them
anymore, at least the ones that do simple data stuff like contacts,
bug-report, expert etc. My goal is to replaces these step-by-step with
RFM and gain integration capabilties in return. Robert