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From: robbo1mark:aol at: 6-Jul-2001 13:30

I agree with you Ryan that we should have optional indexing starting from and including base zero, PASCAL has this for array indexing, however as Jeff rightly points out, I've got too little time, resources, understanding etc. to really appreciate software architecture 8-) ; Yes he can be serupticiously rude but he's also ; funny so I like him! cheers, Mark Dickson In a message dated Fri, 6 Jul 2001 1:22:32 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Ryan Cole <[ryanc--iesco-dms--com]> writes: << I might actually use them on occasion if they were packaged differently. I would prefer one of the below formats: * Packaged in an object like zip/pick, zip/index?, zip/skip, etc. --My favorite. * Prefixed names like zip-pick, zip-index?, zip-skip, etc. * Patch the system words, but just add a /zero indexing option. This way nothing breaks and you can still load in unsuspecting programs without problems. --Ryan PS: To say strictly that we should only use 0 based indexing would leave many problems suited for 1 based indexing having to do adjustments. And so it is vice versa. Being able to use the appropriate system for each instance the makes clear sense to me.