[REBOL] Re: [Fwd: Re: RSL: Rebol Standard Library]
From: agem:crosswinds at: 25-May-2001 2:16
Thread sound a lot to conventional to me.
I think, first we should use rebol.
So why this smart-server-stuff?
Carl shows us allways:
put some files on the server, download a maker-script,
do it, voila, there is what you want.
Let the client do the work :)
then we use rebol..
Carl says all the time:
perl & smalltalk & java &&
needs learning all the good stuff
(class-hierachis, pan-archives etc pp)
before going productive. Years..
To use rebol you need only rebol & inspiration.
With a highly structured big library we compete
with this languages in their best field:
giving jobs to highly skilled experts instead
of power to users..
And we use rebol..
One internal rebol-rule is:
if you re-use code, copy it!
Thats the way [make something![..]] works:
it does not use pretty structured information(class/object-style).
It copies the old script (oops, object) and the old may change
how it likes. New too.
Also the organisation object/word and dir/file is similar.
So, if i recycle a good script, i use my own copy, »bloating« or not.
Copy it to script-dir, done. No installation-magics, no
update-problems.
Like [make %script.r »«]
Because i use rebol,
which is extremely expressiv. Rebol-code is data.
for example [find (pick in feel 'engage] block!)]
is a good base to enhance/change the feel-behavior.
As long as the source is frozen,
its much better than common oops »parent super dancing« IMHO.
But, would it be considered to be part of the
backward-compatibility-list?
And, do we want to be that compatibility-aware?
Its like freesing yourself to the old solution while i
could build much better this two years later.
Bloat again..
compatibility/library-sensitiv stuff should be done by the most
skilled people and on only one place.
Currently that happens well: on rebol.com .
Last paragraph learned on slashdot ;-)
Well, since we use rebol:
Suggestion: script-database (oops, me? Yes:)
- global index to »the world«:
desktop can link pretty to scripts on different pages/servers.
- good search-program there: fulltext, filenames, when posted,
categories.
hm. maybe we can index in future like
related: [»has cgi?« 30% »clever argument handling« 67%]
and use something like fuzzy logic for search?
Presenting the user »all« known questions and getting his priorities
for script-selection?
- Unique global script-id's (checksums)
if i want a script, i mean exactly that script! All others may break.
- mirrors. If you want to mirror something send your indexes to the
database.
- Sophisticated diff.
A colored diff tells much more to me than all version-infos.
searching all projects on my machine and presenting me information
about updates from the web with some gui-help to embed them.
- some ranking/commenting for scripts and author?
»script is broken, you need image by hand«
»i like allans scripts. Give me stuff from him first«
..?
i think »express« would do it more this way tahn with static
early-iced library?
hm. no cheap way to know :(
and final, remember rebol means lightweight.
If i really need that lot code cpan's/cvs's are meant for,
first i check what i do wrong.
chances are it's a thousand-wheeler..
Volker
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Am 24.05.01, 21:47:19, schrieb Chris <[chris--starforge--co--uk]> zum Thema
[REBOL] Re: [Fwd: Re: RSL: Rebol Standard Library]:
