[REBOL] Re: [Fwd: Re: RSL: Rebol Standard Library]
From: agem:crosswinds at: 25-May-2001 2:16
Thread sound a lot to conventional to me.
I think, first we should use rebol.
So why this smart-server-stuff?
Carl shows us allways:
put some files on the server, download a maker-script,
do it, voila, there is what you want.
Let the client do the work :)
then we use rebol..
Carl says all the time:
perl & smalltalk & java &&
needs learning all the good stuff
(class-hierachis, pan-archives etc pp)
before going productive. Years..
To use rebol you need only rebol & inspiration.
With a highly structured big library we compete
with this languages in their best field:
giving jobs to highly skilled experts instead
of power to users..
And we use rebol..
One internal rebol-rule is:
if you re-use code, copy it!
Thats the way [make something![..]] works:
it does not use pretty structured information(class/object-style).
It copies the old script (oops, object) and the old may change
how it likes. New too.
Also the organisation object/word and dir/file is similar.
So, if i recycle a good script, i use my own copy, »bloating« or not.
Copy it to script-dir, done. No installation-magics, no
Like [make %script.r »«]
Because i use rebol,
which is extremely expressiv. Rebol-code is data.
for example [find (pick in feel 'engage] block!)]
is a good base to enhance/change the feel-behavior.
As long as the source is frozen,
its much better than common oops »parent super dancing« IMHO.
But, would it be considered to be part of the
And, do we want to be that compatibility-aware?
Its like freesing yourself to the old solution while i
could build much better this two years later.
compatibility/library-sensitiv stuff should be done by the most
skilled people and on only one place.
Currently that happens well: on rebol.com .
Last paragraph learned on slashdot ;-)
Well, since we use rebol:
Suggestion: script-database (oops, me? Yes:)
- global index to »the world«:
desktop can link pretty to scripts on different pages/servers.
- good search-program there: fulltext, filenames, when posted,
hm. maybe we can index in future like
related: [»has cgi?« 30% »clever argument handling« 67%]
and use something like fuzzy logic for search?
Presenting the user »all« known questions and getting his priorities
- Unique global script-id's (checksums)
if i want a script, i mean exactly that script! All others may break.
- mirrors. If you want to mirror something send your indexes to the
- Sophisticated diff.
A colored diff tells much more to me than all version-infos.
searching all projects on my machine and presenting me information
about updates from the web with some gui-help to embed them.
- some ranking/commenting for scripts and author?
»script is broken, you need image by hand«
»i like allans scripts. Give me stuff from him first«
i think »express« would do it more this way tahn with static
hm. no cheap way to know :(
and final, remember rebol means lightweight.
If i really need that lot code cpan's/cvs's are meant for,
first i check what i do wrong.
chances are it's a thousand-wheeler..
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Am 24.05.01, 21:47:19, schrieb Chris <[chris--starforge--co--uk]> zum Thema
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