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|Group: All ... except covered in other channels [web-public]|
but recent remark news means I am picking up programming threads...so I guess I'm not the only one with things just around the corner...
Or would be if there was a 1.3.62 - right now the latest rebcode release is 1.3.61, based on the 1.3.1 codebase. 1.3.2 is actually more recent.
Alan - THanks, but I have the same version. I thought there was a more recent one. Title: "Slideshow Presenter" Author: "Carl Sassenrath" Version: 1.2.0 Date: 14-Dec-2001
I've figured out part of what's going on with the calendar - got it down to a single line of draw dialect that's causing Rebol to segfault, both on the most recent Windows and Linux versions: view layout [box 120x70 effect [draw [pen red white polygon 0x0 119x0 119x69 0x69]]] Something changed between View versions 1.3.1 and 1.3.2 that's causing this... It was working fine with 1.3.1
Just stopping by to say hello. Yes, it's been a while. Sorry about that. R3 has had me far out to sea - especially the Unicode changes of recent.
Do keep in mind, recent copies of Excel "are" simply XML.
This is very cool news ... I'll crank up wine again on an a40.exe to see ... time to catch up with recent developments again.
I think it is Ladislav, who understands the meaning of the group differently. I definitely translate is - post messages you want Carl to read. So - in recent situation, when Carl reappeared and is hopefully considering next steps, talk about the arguments for open-sourcing R3 is pretty much valid in mybook ...
- name of the group does not explain anything at all imo - I can see no Carl's original posting, my first message is from 4/Jan/2004, from Shadwolf. Then Anton, "none", Reviewer and me guessing, if it is "from" Carl, or "to" Carl, which in itself clearly shows, than more than one person had problem understanding original purpose of the group - Sunanda's explanation is just that - his opinion - there is no etc. :-) - I am not accusing anyone from anything :-) I know it helps from time to time, to keep groups being on-topic, and I can understand that in the case of Saphirion, but as for me, recent Carl only's post are far less off topic than some prior discussions in that group. For god's or anyone sake, it will be best for me to create pekr-only group, giving anyone any persmission to post anything :-)
|Group: Ann-Reply ... Reply to Announce group [web-public]|
Hmm. Anton has shifted sites 4x in recent years ... !
btiffin: Looks like I updated Wine from the winehq site late November, so I've got a pretty recent version.
|Group: !AltME ... Discussion about AltME [web-public]|
Regarding crash on recycle .. I don't think that bug exists in recent builds. Has anyone seen it in a recent build??
it is FF. I am no Vista. With my former notebook, I had one problem, where FF was chosen, but Vista still kept IE and it could not be deselected (and I am local admin). With my recent notebook, I simply have FF registered ....
I clicked Custom, then FireFox - there are three options in there - Use recent browser, IE, FF .... even if FF is "default browser" for my OS, I had to specifically click it here, and now AltME opens FF finally! Strange thing is, that when I now return back to the same menu, once again Use recent browser is selected, but FF is now used ....
We need more testing. Although the recent blog entry may change things a little we need lots of grunt test case wrting. They are built around a test engine that loads the cases, so these are not standalone scripts.
Anyone ever seen a "Too Many Recent Servers" error when attempting to start a world? And is the limit 5 or 3 worlds running on a single PC?
I was running multiple servers on a Win98 machine, so don't know if anyone else has had a different experience on the more recent Win OS's.
I've always thought a nice feature would be to set the 'start-date' from where you wanted to receive data from, so you could ease into retrieving either the entire world's contents, or simply start fresh with only the recent submissions. However, your search capability would be limited as the search is performed locally on the data you have available. Maybe the next AltME will have more features like this.
I have been looking at my WireShark output during one of the recent AltME problems. What seems to happen is that the server stops responding to the client keep alive requests (sent evey 5 seconds normaly), but the IP address keeps responding to my pings with almost no dropped packets or increase in latency.
If anything traffic volumes are down in recent months: http://www.rebol.org/aga-display-stats.r?world=r3wp&year=2009 (figures show [web-public] groups only. It is possible private groups are way, way up).
The recent decline in non REBOL related concent, seemingly comming from a common accord that we should make the world more REBOL centric... will have made a big difference too.
But I lost some messages on one of the computers, i use to access AltMe. And I don't mean the common bug, that I do net get the recent messages.
Maybe the bug is that the server does not apply the recent patches.
mark everything read could be done a bit differently maybe, via a setting. E.g. "Mark as read messages older than (days)" ... defaulting to let's say 3 days ... so that you would be able to see some recent discussions still marked red .... just an idea ...
maybe if the client is more recent than the server?
I don't like how recent altme updates treat msg post. The caching (or undo) should be done some other way. This grey area blocking unless the message is delivered makes AltME feel like the JS crap out there ;-)
Florin, on the left, you should see "M | Users | Status" You can click on these: M = Most recent Users = Alphabetical Status = By by status
So did I -- 1.2.23. So recent, it's not on the recent updates list: http://www.altme.com/new.html
|Group: Core ... Discuss core issues [web-public]|
Hve you tried the new-line function -- available in recent versions of REBOL?
Example PRINT (global) In the most recent Rebol/Core 2.6 (date) First appeared in Rebol/Core 0.005 alpha (date) [History] Passed all 12 unit tests on [30 versions of rebol]. (See [unit tests]) --------------------------- PARSE (global) In the most recent Rebol/Core 2.6 (date) First appeared ... [History] Passed all 34 unit tests on [14 versions of rebol]. (See [unit tests])
difference in recent versions will subtract dates and times
on a completely other note, I'd really like for rebol to adopt IM protocols. did you know that a recent survey here showed that only 30% of teens use e-mail?
Gabriele - so what is "tasking" in R3 going to be under the hood? There were various things said - 1) we will have something like make task! syntax, which will use OS threads in the background, just hiding the complexity of threading model from user (= simplicity in rebol level) 2) In one of recent blogs and their comments Carl said he might have its own way of how to do tasking in Rebol. So, how will it look? Is it already decided?
A "how was this function called ?" function. I don't think there is a way. (although in recent discussion on BIND?....)
I've brought this up before as well, but it looks like it will be there for R3, according to the recent blog on it.
Anton's version requires recent releases, where SET works on objects. Nice though!
That's ok, it's for the menu style I've been making, which already relies on several features added in recent times ... :)
I think, we were allowed to use () in paths in recent versions of REBOL. Not exactly sure when.
AS/400 isn't on the current short list of OSs that are kept up to date. It looks like the old download page has moved as well, so I don't know what the most recent version is.
I have been thinking about this for sometime. I'm thinking we need an alternative set of mezzanines for those that need performance and want to build something off the /base product. Problem with existing mezzanines is that they need to maintain backwards compatibilitiy which means we may lack some of the performance we might gain from a current alternative. The goal of the new set of mezzanines is to be driven from the most recent distribution of the REBOL platform R2. Obviously, R3 should be accomplishing this task inherently.
Graham: how could single threaded code return, and yet continue to execute recent function? What usability case do you have in mind here?
|Group: View ... discuss view related issues [web-public]|
Doc's Win95 demo (in Demo's folder of ViewTop breaks on layout/trace, looks like build is involved, but the file is %win95.zip ... on some recent /Views, didn't test all the way back to where it works, but has anyone fixed or know much about it?
Type "desktop" to start desktop. WARNING: CALL function enabled in this version. To see most recent beta changes, type: changes? >> fun: func [/local i ][print i for i 1 10 1  print i ] >> fun fun none none none none >> stat ** Script Error: stat has no value ** Near: stat >> stats == 3769230 >> recycle >> stats == 2937954 >>
Type "desktop" to start desktop. WARNING: CALL function enabled in this version. To see most recent beta changes, type: changes? >> stats/frames == [1536 1401 135 135 12522] >>
Type "desktop" to start desktop. WARNING: CALL function enabled in this version. To see most recent beta changes, type: changes? >> recycle >> stats/frames == [1536 1121 415 415 11396]
Carl posts new thing to consider for View - min-face - look at recent blog article - http://www.rebol.net/article/0168.html
re versions I'm trying to run Didec's delete-emails which requires View 1.2.8+. I downloaded the latest version of View and it shows up as 1.2.1? When I look at the downloads dir I see 1.2.8 circa june 2005 but the more recent files are labeled version 1.2.1. Can someone explain why newer code has a lower version number? Thanks
In my recent explorations of the view system, I found it necessary to see what is going on. This program shows detect, engage and over functions in action for a face and its subface: http://www.lexicon.net/antonr/rebol/doc/event-flow-diagram.r
Petr, In a recent production application, here is what we recommended to the users in a web based environment and they liked enough to support us with our standards group: 1. tab boxes to cut down on many screens (or to give appearance of that) and saves on some trips to the server 2. flyout menus to allow more intuitive navigation 3. breadcrumbs to show they where they are now and how to get back to a higher plane This was a pretty big step forward from the very plain html screens which they had been using before with more roundtrip activity. We prototyped the system in HTML using REBOL CGI functions and got some pretty detailed flow before the project was launched. Maybe your many screens solution should look at those things. I am assuming you are creating a View application.
ok, I thought so, once you told me that it is not what I wrote. It is because of wrong translation into english, it should probably be - "so did anyone any changes in (for?, into?) focus system for (in) recent betas?" How should I write it correctly in english?
i think the version in the sdk is more recent.
Seems pretty recent (almost 1.2.48, not in 1.2.8)
I asked my friend about Ruby, Python - as my idea was, that corporations should throw out tools like Delphi, VB .... .NET and JAVA are goliath ... but he told me, that Python has to bind to other gui toolkits and that it is not so integrated .... he then mentioned AJAX, killing all needs for anything like View ... but - just go and find some statistics ... look at W3C and look for the state of support for all that MLs in recent browsers - you will find situation quite messy ...
|Group: I'm new ... Ask any question, and a helpful person will try to answer. [web-public]|
Thanks. These files are getting better with more recent versions of Cisco IOS but sometimes trial and error is the only way to find the formats used.
The most recent Parse finding is probably CureCode #1401, which serves as a proof, that While is more "universal/fundamental" than Any (or Same), which may be found "crippled" in some situations, just because it "knows better than the user what to do" - I personally hate such software and am happy we convinced Carl to at least introduce the While keyword/operator.
Accuracy is only lost, if the editor doesn't have any contact with us, so we can talk to him/her, which seems to be the case of the recent edits.
Brian, what's the intent wrt delect? With Carl's most recent wiki page describing commands, it seems that a fair amount of delect's parsing power (optional, out of order args) won't be available using these - is delect going to remain?
|Group: Parse ... Discussion of PARSE dialect [web-public]|
Maxim, Did you miss the more recent note where Carl announces that your preference has been implemented in a84 ?
Well, a89 isn't out yet (when last I checked). Beyond that, it depends on how Carl reacts to the recent blog on the parse plans.
well, otoh we lived without OF for so long. I think it can be done in a conventional (recent) way :-) I think that Carl should dedicate few more days to finish parse and move on to Extensions :-)
I know, but I reacted upon Carl's recent blog, and if Carl dares to use the incorrect terminology, then I can too, no? :-) This function is useful because PARSE rules often store data in variables which, depending on how you handle them, can be overwritten by rule recursion. (Which is done often in parsing.)
The substring property is just a recent addition
|Group: Syllable ... The free desktop and server operating system family [web-public]|
The previous ready-made VMware image was rather old. Combined with the recent release of the free player by VMware this means that a lot more people can evaluate Syllable who are not ready to install it on bare metal yet
He has a recent enough processor that it has virtualization extensions, so VirtualBox isn't bad on it.
However, if you can get VMware or a recent QEmu, Syllable has a video driver for it that makes a big difference
|Group: Linux ... [web-public] group for linux REBOL users|
To do 1, it may help to use this console command after an install. alias recent='find . -type f -printf '\''%TY-%Tm-%Td/%TT %p\n'\'' | sort'
Sorry to hear you've been attacked, Graham. I hope it is not too much work to get it all back together....Don't work all night! Looks like it was not personal -- just some automated tools seeking vulnerabilities. You seem to be on a fairly recent version of Apache, but that does mean you may be some months behind on the security patches: http://httpd.apache.org/security/vulnerabilities_22.html
As for OpenVPN - I don't know - it is kind of "recent" addition, as community screamed for it. There is l2tp, pptp, ppoe and I use simple pptp ....
PS: This is the most recent from the ubuntu website.
|Group: AGG ... to discus new Rebol/View with AGG [web-public]|
Do recent /Commands include AGG already?
wondering what the 'dot' is that appears on the right side of the divider over the menu item "File > Recent Files"?
|Group: Announce ... Announcements only - use Ann-reply to chat [web-public]|
From a suggestion by Christopher Ross-Gill (thanks Chris!): -- REBOL.org's RSS feed now has the most recent posts from the AltME REBOL3 world -- You can also see the most recent posts on the website, via this link: http://www.rebol.org/aga-search.r?q=//recent By default, both show the most recent 100 posts. You can set your own value between 0 and 255 -- more details below. RSS FEED INFO ============= See the RSS help page for more details: http://www.rebol.org/boiler.r?display=rss-help WEB PAGE ========= http://www.rebol.org/aga-search.r?q=//recent==> most recent 100 posts by default http://www.rebol.org/aga-search.r?q=//recent:200 ==> most recent 200 posts Slightly more information here: http://www.rebol.org/boiler.r?display=aga-search-help#toc-3 Please let me know the problems!
Since there is a lot of silence in recent days on this AltME world Pekr persaded me to put one announce here: I'd like to announce important milestone in my personal(occasional weekend hobby ;)) JITteR project developement that has just been achieved yesterday. JITteR is lightweight REBOL dialect that enables running JIT compiled functions directly from REBOL interpreter. Such JIT compiled functions can be tens to hundreds times faster than REBOL equivalent code. Usage of JITter is aimed on graphics routines, compressors, codecs, generators, number crunching algorithms and various other time-critical programming tasks. The main idea of this project is not to clone all REBOL functionality but maintain compatibility in sense of JITteR -> REBOL way so any code written in JITteR can be executed(fallback) as plain REBOL function! without the need of touching the code. Currently only REBOL2 version is being tested and x86 CPUs are supported. But R3 and other CPUs will be added in later stages of the developement. Licensing is not yet decided (until the project reach full Alpha stage). But the code will be definitely free for non-commercial usage. Since this release is only 'internal' I hope this announces doesn't sound to much 'vaporwarish' :-) Alpha release is planned to be released to closed group of developers in ~2 months. Feel free to leave any feedback in the Ann-Reply group or PM me. project features log: JITteR v0.1.23.3.1 (pre-Alpha version internal release) - 16-May-2010 --------------------------------------------------------------------- - currently only x86 32-bit CPU assembly supported (other CPUs planned in Beta stage) - datatype support: image!, binary!, string!, integer!, decimal!, char!, logic! - path! lookup support on binary!, image!, string! byte arrays - math operations: +,-,*,/,<,>,<=,>=,= - boolean operations: NOT, AND, OR, XOR - parens support: REBOL-like code evaluation precedence - supported keywords (REBOL compatible): APPLY(currently on JITTer functions only), LOOP, REPEAT, WHILE, UNTIL, BREAK, IF, EITHER, PICK, POKE
|Group: !RebGUI ... A lightweight alternative to VID [web-public]|
visible and total are variable names I tend to use. It might be some of my recent code...
spinner widget now using alt click .. is that a problem for OSX Nope, OSX maps that to CTRL-click The build I'm working on reverts spinner to a more "normal" behavior (I've worked out how to get half height arrows) slightly anomalous behaviour ... modal requester The underlying View popup/modal system has some subtle bugs, some of which will hopefully be fixed in R3. scattered attempts" throughout the Rebgui code" ... Odd, I've never needed this. Is it only in more recent build(s)? I'd really like to identify and fix the underlying cause(s).
|Group: Rebol School ... Rebol School [web-public]|
We should check if it was in the rest of the 2.7 series - 2.7.6 is recent, but 2.7.5 is 2 years old.
Well, if you assume that your internal storage method is one which just needs to be "converted" to an other, like CSV => XML, you might be in for a suprise when trying to model a real time dynamic system with Undo like a paint program with a file format as export. For example, do you store a given object once, with the history of the object elsewhere, or do you store the object together, with the most recent at the top of the list. Also, Do you store objects, and actions, or both togther.
It may have changed in recent version. Let me check...
If you tried DO-THRU above, then it should be the most recent file in your public cache. But anyway, here is a direct link. http://anton.wildit.net.au/rebol/os/nix/draw-tunnel/draw-tunnel.c
R3's STACK returns information about the entire call stack, though the 'debug security setting would put some limits on it. SECURE is disabled in recent builds so we don't know what the limits are; we could try older versions to find out what those limits used to be. Also, see http://issue.cc/r3/885for a bug in STACK.
|Group: Tech News ... Interesting technology [web-public]|
BrainH: is recent Extension API enough to link to .NET, or would you welcome some other additions, as utypes, for such an interface?
the gfx card is responsible for a lot of the watts being consumed... more than any recent cpu in any case.
Perosnally, I'm not convinced by these brain shrinking theories. I quote from Tony Buzan (The Mind Mapping Man) : Recent research has shown that in a normal, healthy brain (that is, one in a healthy, aerobically fit body in which the brain is used well) there is no apparent loss of brain cells; only a growth in the interconnections, and therefore multiple intelligences of that brain! As the 20th Century ended, biologists at Princeton University came up witht the discovery ... that parts of the human brain can generate thousands of new brain cells, everyday I can't find the original scientific reference - Google only guided me to http://biology.about.com/library/weekly/aa102199.htm
Yes, that's the recent stuff
Nice analysis of the recent attack on apache.org: https://blogs.apache.org/infra/entry/apache_org_04_09_2010
Wow. Recent ACM and IEEE issues have had a number of articles on just how fast we've moved to the cloud, and that it will only accelerate. They also discuss technical issues that need to be addressed, but I don't think any of them have said "the big cloud providers could go down for 30 hours."
:-) Yeah, I've seen those in recent years
With all the recent problems in Japan and the rapidly increasing cost of oil, something that is this close to being usable in production is being totally ignored.
Weird. On every device I've tried the WinCE build with, the window didn't resize for the virtual keyboard, so the actual command line was covered up by the keyboard. Are you saying that this problem went away at some point with a more recent WinCE version?
And, when I judge also whether the recent (new) informations are mentioned, the WP is almost unbeatable
|Group: !REBOL3-OLD1 ... [web-public]|
It's a shame that menus have to be reinvented -- every system View runs on has a menu structure built in, and I'd rather use that than rolling our own. Especially on OS X. Our interface could be eg. a dialect attached to a window containing features common in menu systems: view/menu layout [...]["File" ["New" ["Document" "Template"] "Open" ctrl #"O" (does this) "Open Recent" get-recent-docs]]
Roll-your-owns are often inferior to the OS default on recent OS X, but were not necessarily so on earlier versions of OS X before it was polished. Some developers are still better than Apple in that respect. BTW, the worst of the roll-your-own developers on OS X nowadays is Apple - they don't follow their own UI conventions anymore.
All good ideas gentlemen. For the way I work (lazy and forgetful) I'd prefer not to have to type system/console/last-result if we can convice Carl to make it nice and short like recent or answer or ans or just or anything along the six or less character typing range. Plus if there is no shift-key involved, that'd be a bonus (meaning if we pick a symbol to suggest, I'd prefer backtick over tilde)
|Group: !Liquid ... any questions about liquid dataflow core. [web-public]|
rebol is a pretty closed language in the sense where there isn't much room to change rebol itself. you can obviously replace functions, but not the real heart of the engine, the datatypes. Other languages like python let you have access to the complete internals of the language. This is often related to class usage, for which it is easier to provide hooks and callbacks. rebol is a language which doesn't promote objects as the core paradigm, its much closer to imperative programming than most "recent" languages. R3 was/is? supposed to let us build our own datatypes, and has been reported as eventually providing for some level of accessors for objects. This will make it easier to integrate tools like liquid seamlessly.
|Group: !Cheyenne ... Discussions about the Cheyenne Web Server [web-public]|
Do you think you could add keepalive facilities to the service dll, where it could monitor the Cheyenne process and restart it if it shuts down? That could really help - I have admired that facility in recent malware.
If you need the HTTP client for Uniserve, just let me know, I have a much more recent unreleased version that should work better than the old one in Uniserve 0.9.9.
2. This one http://www.rebol.org/view-script.r?script=sqlite3-protocol.r should work with RSP's DO-SQL, but untested. You still have the option to bypass RSP's DB layer to use any driver you like as you would in a normal script. Just remember that your code will be executed in several processes, so you can't rely on global words, nor assume that opening the connection just once will be enough... Btw, doesn't SQLite have issues with write accesses from multiple processes? I've read that each process has to synchronize with others for write operations because SQLite don't provide such layer. Is this still true with recent SQLite version? (Maybe I've just misunderstood, I have no experience using SQLite).
The recent release build. Nothing shows up in the logs. I'll try verbose mode.
|Group: !CureCode ... web-based bugtracking tool [web-public]|
The default ticket view for anonymous login shows up as Most Recent Reports in the dropdown box, but is actually Recent Changes. The first thing I check when going in anonymously is Recent Changes, but either default would be fine if the dropdown and display matched.
For a long while, "Most Recent Reports" and "Recent Changes" produced identical results here, but works properly now. Is that part of the fixes above?
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