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MichaelB:
9-Jun-2005
don't know, I didn't want to say there is something easy, but there 
is something, but last time I looked into syncML for syncing my phone 
with my own software it seamed quite complicated (at least under 
Symbian), but I didn't check it out too carefully (I mean only from 
the Symbian C++ docs wasn't so easy to get the overall picture)
Robert:
9-Jun-2005
Good input. Petr, try to find out what it would need to code such 
an API with a scripting language. Just to get a better picture about 
the problem domain.
[unknown: 9]:
31-Dec-2005
The Gripe:


Go here www.Rebol.org, then go here: http://www.ruby-lang.org/en/, 
then here: http://java.sun.com/, hell even go here, http://msdn.microsoft.com/vbasic/, 
now go back to www.Rebol.com


Even if you don't know what the language is or does, do you want 
to go to Rebol.org?  The main page looks like the last page in the 
basement of a website.  Almost like an "error page"

O There is no single location for all Rebol information.

O Rebol.net, Rebol.com, and Rebol.org are spread out and run by RT. 
O There is no pizzas!
O I don't "feel" community when I visit these sites.


I know I'm not talking to my audience when I say; "think of this 
like a night club" but this is what this is all about.  People want 
to "be where the fun is happening."  Even programmers.

My Suggestion:

O We need a site controlled by the developers.

O We need a forum where people can bitch and meet each other, and 
feel welcome.

O The site needs to have a consistent dynamic attractive template.

O The site needs to be a clearing house for all other sites.  Teach 
and directing people to all the resources.

O The site needs to paint a picture as opposed to describe everything 
with a thousand words.

What is entailed:


O Start a new site, I would propose "RebolCentral.com"  I'm willing 
to pay for it, but I don't want to be in charge of it, I suggest 
we make it a committee.


O The main page should cover every topic and reason anyone would 
come to the site.  This means we support every country and other 
site.  The idea here is a clearing house of centralized information. 


O News: The site needs to gather news worthy information and post 
that at the top.  The site is not alive unless people have a way 
to post their information.  This means that there needs to be at 
least one editor, if not several that share the task.  Every time 
a product is updated, the new features are mentioned.  When Carl 
updates his blog, it gets a single sentence directing people there, 
unless it is news of a release of something.  Etc.


O Product Reviews:   This is key.  Products need to be rated, reviewed, 
categorized, voted on.

O Video Archive: All the videos of all the talks ever given   


O Tutorials:  there are a lot of tutorials out there, but which are 
best?  We need to review the tutorials, rate them by Beginner, Intermediate, 
Advanced.  


O Forum: Start with major topics, and then break it down.  The forum 
needs to direct people to other countries, or support the other countries 
right in the forum.  Great simple forum: http://discussion.treocentral.com/index.php?styleid=1


O Respect the real estate.  The #1 mistake people make is treating 
their websites like just pages.  This is just like real estate, location 
location location.  We need to place the content based on where people 
are going.  So you build the basic site, watch it for a couple of 
weeks, then shift things around based on where people are actually 
going. 


O More art, more photos, more community.   It needs to feel inviting: 
http://msdn.microsoft.com/events/pdc/

Stone soup:


I will pay for, host, and supply a fast linux system (w/archive). 
 

I will help design the templates, and provide (and buy if needed) 
great art for the site.

I will not run the site, nor control the content, but I expect there 
to be in place all the items outlined above, set up in a manner that 
it a) runs itself, b) puts the power in the hands of the developers.
Graham:
31-Dec-2005
I think you're talking about implementation details .. whereas R 
is looking at the overall picture.
Group: Ann-Reply ... Reply to Announce group [web-public]
[unknown: 10]:
30-Mar-2005
Colin i think that Rebol RT does not want to market Rebol as a software 
development tool but rather in a broughter picture as a environment.. 
Thats something a lot of Internet users/developers dont even know 
yet..
[unknown: 10]:
30-Mar-2005
I.e. the problem with introducing REBOL into a BIG software development 
compagny is that the developers are always willing to try a change! 
but the total package of moving from 1 development enviroment to 
the other is far to complicated and expensive to do it.. So they 
stick with what  "others" use  and do, without thinking through the 
whole picture.. Its a pitty but a fact though.. Still if a development 
compagny would start directly (or on a new project) with i.e. REBOL 
the change that it will have success if far greater. Well....getting 
to that stage is difficult because REBOL is unknown... Its like "air" 
to the people, so you have to put time into it.. (There is no time 
inside big compagnies..there is only time in technology enhanced 
compagny's that do research. So you miss a market...) Anyway a nice 
topic which keeps me sometimes thinking about "Who promoted the Wheel.. 
;-)" It was an evolution... And indeed Internet promotion is part 
of this evolution so please continue ;-)
Anton:
2-Feb-2006
digicamsoft:  Mmm.. is that a picture of Michael Jackson on the front 
?
Group: !AltME ... Discussion about AltME [web-public]
[unknown: 9]:
15-Jul-2006
The second.  Not just are we not dropping AltME, we are growing it. 
 But there is a bigger picture.
[unknown: 9]:
16-Jun-2007
Please post a picture of AltME looking bad on your flavour of Linux.
Reichart:
2-Feb-2009
Beer pressure does work.... that is how I ask contractors to do things. 
 I call them over, and as I ask them to make changes, I pull out 
the ice from the bag, pull all the beer out of the boxes, and put 
it all in the cooler.  But the time I'm done talking it is all set 
up, and by the time they are done working, the beer is ice cold!


Graham, yes, great idea.  This is a model we have used in game rooms. 
 


It would be interesting in this context to see how people help each 
other.  I suspect it "might" be a zero sum game.  There are people 
that regardless of the facts simply help the underdog.    It is why 
so many hard criminals attract women from the outside.  


I have not seen anything like this though in Qtask.  I think the 
fact that you upload your picture makes you a little more "accountable", 
and that a moderator can kick you out.  Slashdot's system works pretty 
well, it might be fun to play with that more too.
Group: RAMBO ... The REBOL bug and enhancement database [web-public]
Vincent:
20-May-2005
#3697: can't crash REBOL anymore (Win2k) - tried some heavy brush 
pasting on picture: works fine.
Group: Script Library ... REBOL.org: Script library and Mailing list archive [web-public]
eFishAnt:
19-Jan-2005
there is ALWAYS a 3...;-)     Picture or graphic of the most popular 
script with a quote.
Sunanda:
15-Dec-2005
Now, a quick challenge.  I'd like several banner texts that we can 
rotate to help keep the thing fresh, and to help unveil other aspects 
of REBOL.

Can we all chip in, please?
Either --- a 75 word (or shorter) snapshot of what REBOL is

or --- some bullet points that we can join to others to help paint 
a picture.

Thanks!
Jean-François:
1-May-2007
Gabriele, That is great !

I hadn't noticed the extra info poping up. Just that simple extra 
info is very helpful when inspecting/reading code (well for me anyway). 
Thank you.

The fact I hadn't noticed it might be a counter argument to Sunanda's 
fear of being annoyed by it. You really have to leave your pointer 
on it.


Any new language (natural or artificial) feels like "Scriptio continua" 
( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scriptio_continua) 

at first and all these visual cues are very helpfull in building 
the program's tree in your mind.


Imagine yourself a beginner at german reading a text that would have 
been colorized to accentuate its different elements. Hovering over 
a colored word would give you a translation or even maybe just a 
picture to prevent you from thinking in your first language.
Maxim:
20-Mar-2009
sunanda:  I have a feature proposal for you  :-)


it would be nice to be able to supply a single picture to link with 
the scripts. this image (jpg, png, gif) would have hefty size limitation 
and I think only one image per script should be enough, but having 
this alongside the various listings of the application and within 
searches, new scripts, etc would be really cool.


sometimes, if you see a thumbnail (ui grab, console example, logo, 
output gfx, whatever), it will help raise people's curiosity.  this 
could probably benefit quite a few scripts, which are possibly overlooked.


having a simple search filter of scripts with pics, could also help 
people to quickly find usefull things at a glance.


what do you think?  it could start out really simple, and slowly 
thumbnails could creep into various listings of scripts.
Maxim:
20-Mar-2009
maybe, we could eventually have more than one picture, like pics 
which are specifically tagged as gui screenshots, for example.
shadwolf:
16-Jan-2011
so MAKE ME A FANCE BLINKING  WIDE  BUTTON ON THE MIDDLE OF MY PAGE 
AND BE SHORT NAME IT "UPLOAD A SCRIPT" !!! Focus on those 2 points 
and i will use rebol.org waaaaaaaaaaay much more. If you want to 
go crazy fancy and make it super cool you can add a picture + text 
describtion  for the GUI based script... Those are the details that 
separate a boring website noone use and a super website use widely 
!!
Group: View ... discuss view related issues [web-public]
Geomol:
29-Jan-2005
Nice picture there, Terry! The  "look-out" within the 'O' reminds 
me of some pictures, I made with my Amiga500 many years ago. :-) 
But we didn't have such nice colour fading back then. Very nice!
[unknown: 10]:
3-Apr-2005
If have a problem with Caching in rebol..seems everytime i need to 
restart view/console to make sure the PICTURE is reloaded to the 
currect on... im using 'IMAGE %file.png to load it... and a recycle 
does not fix the problem
Pekr:
25-Jun-2005
Few additional notes, to not understand me wrong. I always try to 
see the bigger picture of things, not just from the pov of current 
View user. IMO VID should develop towards general "solution containers" 
= highering common ground for further developments. So - the solution 
is not to introduce one quick hack for particular style, but generalising 
things and letting ppl to develop their own solution, but using that 
common denominator. Good example is Rebol, its network protocol, 
and Uniserve - Uniserve is good example of taking things further, 
so each user does not need to start from scratch. In VID it is e.g. 
introduction of accessor functions. I suggest to try to find other 
"solution containers" :-)


The other thing ppl should think openly about, is to sacrifice backwards 
compatibility! I do remember ppl here screaming even about single 
change, which would eventually broke their code. Man, it sound like 
some of us woul never been with bigger projects? Our SAP workflow 
engine is some 50K lines, and when I asked my co-worker to add another 
functionality, he said - I will hack-it in, but I will REWRITE whole 
engine to be more flexible. So - that's me and ppl I work with - 
let's be sane - as I stated on ML - View starts from 1.3 ;-) But 
even further - let's not be selfish to the thousands of ppl, which 
may come to Rebol in future. I don't want to explain to anyone, that 
thing x or y is there because there was some compatibility issue 
with Rebol 0000.1 alpha and som eppl got tens of scripts already 
- that is imo selfishness in bigger picture, sorry to say that. Use 
old kernels for old apps. Our code will break anyway here or there. 
I prefer PURITY of solution instead of compromisses. So that is my 
message to future developments :-)
Anton:
12-Jul-2005
Is it really close to what you need ? If you can show me a picture 
of how the widget should look, I can see if rotate-knob can do it.
Anton:
6-Aug-2005
ie. 
	1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 .... 
or
	1 2 3 4 5 6 7
	8 9 ...
Perhaps you can draw and show us a picture of it ?
Group: I'm new ... Ask any question, and a helpful person will try to answer. [web-public]
Alek_K:
14-Apr-2006
'alt' and other atributes can be before img -> <img alt="picture" 
src="picture.jpg"/>
Alek_K:
14-Apr-2006
and second - one can write <img alt="picture" src=one.jpg /> - which 
is also good - and besides that IMO all is OK.
Anton:
14-Apr-2006
page: read http://www.rebol.com
; special test cases from Alek_K
;page: {<img src="one two.jpg">} ; OK
;page: {<img alt="picture" src=one.jpg />} ; OK
images: copy []


use [whsp ws non-end-tag strd wh- non-str-delim p1 p2 delim non-delim][

	whsp: charset " ^-^/" ; whitespace
	ws: [any whsp] ; a rule for any number of whitespace characters
	non-end-tag: complement charset ">" ; all characters except ">"
	strd: charset {"'} ; string delimiters, double and single quote


 wh-: charset "^-^/" ; whitespace minus the space character (space 
 is allowed inside a quoted string)
	non-str-delim: complement union whsp charset ">"	

	parse/all page [
		any [
			thru "<img" whsp [
				any [
					ws "src" ws "=" ws 

     ;p1: [strd (delim: form p1/1) | (delim: ">")] (non-delim: complement 
     union whsp charset delim)

     p1: [strd (non-delim: complement union wh- charset form p1/1) | (non-delim: 
     non-str-delim)]

     p1: any non-delim p2: (append images copy/part p1 p2) ; keep the 
     url
					| non-end-tag 
				]
			] | skip
		]
	]

]


new-line/all images on ; add hidden newlines to the images block 
so it molds nicely
print mold images
btiffin:
17-Nov-2007
Hey!  I was just about to show some parse code and then you come 
along and make it a freebie.  :)  


Paul;  A good lesson right off the bat.  How ever easy REBOL code 
looks.  There is probably something built-in already.  REBOL is definitely 
a blinders off language.  Then again ... I think Ashley has something 
approaching a super power when it comes to quickly seeing alternate 
solutions and big picture implications.  :)
Maxim:
1-May-2009
mike: the best tip I can give you is to picture a cursor in your 
head when you type your rules.  parse really is about iterating over 
a series on byte at a time and matching the next expected characetr.
mhinson:
23-May-2009
You are right Henrik, even the programming I have done years ago 
was based on learning a set of tricks that worked in the context 
I needed, then sticking to those tricks for everything.  I can see 
that Rebol demands to be taken more seriously & I also appreciate 
the potential for "elegance and simplicity". I ride a unicycle & 
part of the appeal there is also the enjoyment of minimalism, no 
chain, no gears, no freewheel etc.


My understanding of "the system of REBOL" is about 5% I think & I 
feel like I haven't grasped enough of it yet to make my understanding 
move forward efficiently. I am just at the start of passing data 
to functions & because REBOL seems to automatically typecast a lot 
of data, it has not been in my mind that I may have to do it manually 
in some cases, but now I know that, I still can't predict which cases 
yet. 


With the lit-path! and path! data passing I understand that the invalid 
path I want to test must not be evaluated before it gets into the 
ATTEMPT section of the code, so I would expect to need to pass the 
data in a literal form I suppose (or as a string perhaps). One of 
the conclusions I am drawing from the example given is that I can 
pass this thing called a literal (I don't fully grasp what that is 
yet) but receive it in the function as a path! so it would seem that 
the passing of data to the function is also doing a type conversion.. 
At that point I don't know how the path! is not evaluated enough 
to cause an error.  If I search the core manual for "type conversion" 
it has only one mention, & not in this context. This is the sort 
of thing I do a lot to try & understand without asking too many questions, 
but my techniques must be flawed as I often fail to find anything 
relevant. (This isn't intended to be a question, just a picture of 
the muddle inside my mind).


Now I will read Bindology & hope that my understanding will be transformed. 
 Thanks again for all the help.
Group: Make-doc ... moving forward [web-public]
shadwolf:
27-Jan-2005
a picture of  MDP-GUI 1.3 including the render API of Ashley/Gabriele 
http://shadwolf.free.fr/mdp-gui13.r
Group: Parse ... Discussion of PARSE dialect [web-public]
MichaelB:
23-Oct-2005
=image 
    file: images/a picture.gif 
    size: 200x300
    caption: some caption below the picture 
    desc: some description for the picture


I'm trying to extend Makedoc2 for a project to generate a xml dialect 
and I need much more information to certain elements - e.g. images 
- so I'm trying to make it as easy as possible for the user. The 
above is what I actually wanted to parse - but the order of the information 
is supposed to be free and I can't and don't want to use rebol datatypes 
which might be the first thought to make the parsing easier, because 
normal people don't want to learn too many rules for all these things. 
So the b and c in the example corresponded more to the caption and 
desc in the above example.
Izkata:
23-Oct-2005
I'm gonna try again:

>> s: {=image
{    file: images/a picture.gif
{    size: 200x300
{    caption: some caption below the picture
{    desc: some description for the picture}
== {=image
file: images/a picture.gif
size: 200x300
caption: some caption below the picture
desc: some description for the pictu...
>> parse head append s {^/} [
[    some [
[        thru {file: } copy file to {^/} |
[        thru {size: } copy size to {^/} |
[        thru {caption: } copy cap to {^/} |
[        thru {desc: } copy desc to {^/}
[        ]
[    ]
Brock:
4-Dec-2008
Dehex isn't an issue for me really.  I am only taking  a very small 
percentage of records.  So in the big picture, it's not a significant 
slow-down.  The process this is attached to runs daily on a group 
of text files totalling less than 10 MB in size.
Group: MySQL ... [web-public]
Dockimbel:
24-Jun-2006
I would be easier to understand if you replace the word "mysql", 
by either "client" or "server". ;-) But, anyway, I think I got the 
picture.
Group: Syllable ... The free desktop and server operating system family [web-public]
Kaj:
20-Apr-2005
We also added a rewritten picture viewer, a new PDF reader and a 
number of new dock applets. An updated version of our web browser 
is available separately.
Kaj:
7-Sep-2005
The fact alone that you have a picture probably means that the driver 
is active, because many laptops with integrated Intel video don't 
have VESA2 support in the BIOS, so there's nothing to fall back on 
for Syllable
Kaj:
14-Nov-2005
I know how you feel, though. I also have the tendency to feel my 
way through the installation and did it several times in the beginning 
to form a mental picture of it
Group: Linux ... [web-public] group for linux REBOL users
Evgeniy Philippov:
27-Jan-2012
One of the details I left out in the above overview is how clients 
actually render under wayland. By removing the X server from the 
picture we also removed the mechanism by which X clients typically 
render. But there's another mechanism that we're already using with 
DRI2 under X: direct rendering. With direct rendering, the client 
and the server share a video memory buffer. The client links to a 
rendering library such as OpenGL that knows how to program the hardware 
and renders directly into the buffer. The compositor in turn can 
take the buffer and use it as a texture when it composites the desktop. 
After the initial setup, the client only needs to tell the compositor 
which buffer to use and when and where it has rendered new content 
into it.


This leaves an application with two ways to update its window contents:


   1. Render the new content into a new buffer and tell the compositor 
   to use that instead of the old buffer. The application can allocate 
   a new buffer every time it needs to update the window contents or 
   it can keep two (or more) buffers around and cycle between them. 
   The buffer management is entirely under application control.

   2. Render the new content into the buffer that it previously told 
   the compositor to to use. While it's possible to just render directly 
   into the buffer shared with the compositor, this might race with 
   the compositor. What can happen is that repainting the window contents 
   could be interrupted by the compositor repainting the desktop. If 
   the application gets interrupted just after clearing the window but 
   before rendering the contents, the compositor will texture from a 
   blank buffer. The result is that the application window will flicker 
   between a blank window or half-rendered content. The traditional 
   way to avoid this is to render the new content into a back buffer 
   and then copy from there into the compositor surface. The back buffer 
   can be allocated on the fly and just big enough to hold the new content, 
   or the application can keep a buffer around. Again, this is under 
   application control.


In either case, the application must tell the compositor which area 
of the surface holds new contents. When the application renders directly 
the to shared buffer, the compositor needs to be noticed that there 
is new content. But also when exchanging buffers, the compositor 
doesn't assume anything changed, and needs a request from the application 
before it will repaint the desktop. The idea that even if an application 
passes a new buffer to the compositor, only a small part of the buffer 
may be different, like a blinking cursor or a spinner.
Group: AGG ... to discus new Rebol/View with AGG [web-public]
Maxim:
27-Feb-2007
for example, if you want to slide a picture of a stars, you must 
first boost the gamma of the picture by 2, do the move and then apply 
a .5 gamma.  then, the AA will have spread out according to energy 
rather than color.  which means that the 2 side-by-side pixels will 
be at much more than 0.5 of the original 1.0 single pixel brightness.
Group: Web ... Everything web development related [web-public]
Ashley:
22-Jan-2005
With regards to keyboards that don't have a numeric pad (or indeed 
function keys), I'm using a "Happy Hacking Lite 2"; a bit pricey 
though but the preferred keyboard of many Linux enthusiasts. Check 
out http://shop.store.yahoo.com/pfuca-store/haphackeylit1.htmlfor 
a picture.
Group: Announce ... Announcements only - use Ann-reply to chat [web-public]
[unknown: 9]:
31-Dec-2005
The Gripe:


Go here www.Rebol.org, then go here: http://www.ruby-lang.org/en/, 
then here: http://java.sun.com/, hell even go here, http://msdn.microsoft.com/vbasic/, 
now go back to www.Rebol.com


Even if you don't know what the language is or does, do you want 
to go to Rebol.org?  The main page looks like the last page in the 
basement of a website.  Almost like an "error page"

O There is no single location for all Rebol information.

O Rebol.net, Rebol.com, and Rebol.org are spread out and run by RT. 
O There is no pizzas!
O I don't "feel" community when I visit these sites.


I know I'm not talking to my audience when I say; "think of this 
like a night club" but this is what this is all about.  People want 
to "be where the fun is happening."  Even programmers.

My Suggestion:

O We need a site controlled by the developers.

O We need a forum where people can bitch and meet each other, and 
feel welcome.

O The site needs to have a consistent dynamic attractive template.

O The site needs to be a clearing house for all other sites.  Teach 
and directing people to all the resources.

O The site needs to paint a picture as opposed to describe everything 
with a thousand words.

What is entailed:


O Start a new site, I would propose "RebolCentral.com"  I'm willing 
to pay for it, but I don't want to be in charge of it, I suggest 
we make it a committee.


O The main page should cover every topic and reason anyone would 
come to the site.  This means we support every country and other 
site.  The idea here is a clearing house of centralized information. 


O News: The site needs to gather news worthy information and post 
that at the top.  The site is not alive unless people have a way 
to post their information.  This means that there needs to be at 
least one editor, if not several that share the task.  Every time 
a product is updated, the new features are mentioned.  When Carl 
updates his blog, it gets a single sentence directing people there, 
unless it is news of a release of something.  Etc.


O Product Reviews:   This is key.  Products need to be rated, reviewed, 
categorized, voted on.

O Video Archive: All the videos of all the talks ever given   


O Tutorials:  there are a lot of tutorials out there, but which are 
best?  We need to review the tutorials, rate them by Beginner, Intermediate, 
Advanced.  


O Forum: Start with major topics, and then break it down.  The forum 
needs to direct people to other countries, or support the other countries 
right in the forum.  Great simple forum: http://discussion.treocentral.com/index.php?styleid=1


O Respect the real estate.  The #1 mistake people make is treating 
their websites like just pages.  This is just like real estate, location 
location location.  We need to place the content based on where people 
are going.  So you build the basic site, watch it for a couple of 
weeks, then shift things around based on where people are actually 
going. 


O More art, more photos, more community.   It needs to feel inviting: 
http://msdn.microsoft.com/events/pdc/

Stone soup:


I will pay for, host, and supply a fast linux system (w/archive). 
 

I will help design the templates, and provide (and buy if needed) 
great art for the site.

I will not run the site, nor control the content, but I expect there 
to be in place all the items outlined above, set up in a manner that 
it a) runs itself, b) puts the power in the hands of the developers.
Maxim:
5-Feb-2007
liquidator, teaser  here is a quick snapshot of the culmination of 
years of work, finally coming together.


using the same (evolving and improving) core engine as the regraph 
tech demo, I am now attacking the IDE for dataflow application development. 
 FINALLY.  Also note that this is built over liquid which is a full 
featured, lazy computing, dynamically reconfigurable dataflow engine. 
 also note that all internals of the nodes (processing and gui views) 
are built using liquid itself, so it will be possible to apply your 
own connections within the internals of the application itself ! 

Expect first working demos within a few weeks.


First picture out of the lab:  this is basically a generic "Add" 
node being instanced 4 times, note that each plug can stick out at 
any angle and that the node type label is already neatly aligned 
in the center of the node's core at the center.


http://www.pointillistic.com/open-REBOL/moa/steel/images/news/liquidator.jpg
 all lines and plugs stay connected whatever you drag around (plug 
or node)
Geomol:
21-Mar-2008
Electronic Arts IFF ILBM loader:
http://www.fys.ku.dk/~niclasen/rebol/libs/gfx/iff.r

Can handle 2, 4, 8, 16 and 32 color images, HAM6 images (4096 colors) 
and HALFBRITE (64 colors). HALFBRITE hasn't been tested yet, as I 
couldn't find such an image easily. Handle both compressed and non-compressed 
images. This is an example, where rebcode would help a lot, as a 
320x200 image can take several seconds to uncompress.
Usage:

iff-image: load-iff %some_picture.iff
img: iff-image/as-image

img now is a REBOL image!, than can be viewed like:
view layout [image img]
Will:
2-Feb-2009
I guess you are the third on the picture.. 8P
Group: SDK ... [web-public]
Maxim:
13-Dec-2009
and you are sure the image itself doesn't have the artefact?  (llooking 
into picture viewer, for eample)
Group: !RebGUI ... A lightweight alternative to VID [web-public]
shadwolf:
31-Mar-2005
in the LNS big picture it's says that LNS is the base systeme for 
VIEW 2.0 etc so why not associate carl to the discution and see what 
he plan for View 2.0
ChristianE:
15-May-2005
Now that makes for a really nice slogan, Robert: "only four letters 
more but hundreds of questions less". It's as true as that of the 
well-known picture, which says more than thousand words. Comes down 
to: One word says more than thousand letters ;-)
shadwolf:
26-May-2005
this picture shows the blu box problem ;)
BrianH:
21-Jun-2005
That's why i put "binaries" in quotes before when referring to the 
preconverted draw blocks you mentioned before. Since SVG is text, 
even human-readable (with difficulty at times) the SVG files can 
be considered the source and the draw converter can be considered 
the compiler. Still, I agree that it would be best to make your own 
if you can, since the GPL is really poorly suited as a picture content 
license - they should have tried one of the Creative Commons licenses 
instead.
MichaelB:
17-Nov-2005
I gonna try to implement these menus sooner or later, but looks as 
right now it might be rather later. :-(

Also I would like to agree with Pekr, that icons and bubble help 
aren't really always the best ways to represent things. One could 
argue (and agree with some studies or opions) that icons are not 
helpful in learning an interface and as Pekr told, once you know 
them you don't know them because they have a good symbol or picture 
in them, but because you spacially remembered the position and can 
go straight to the point you know the sought for command is. Same 
with bubble help. Actually it's just kind of way to explain your 
bad icons, because else nobody knows what they are doing. 

So I agree that bubble help should be there in order to have them 
because people will still use a lot of icons and have to explain 
them, but better use a compromise as done with Opera, where you have 
the fancy icon but can turn on the textdescription of the icon, so 
that it appears below. Then you know what the button means, but have 
the fancy picture too. Stupid thing is just that you lost some screenspace 
to the BAD picture above the GOOD textual description. :-) Ok some 
people tell me now vice versa. But really one should think about 
what a small icon tells. The designer of course knows there meaning 
- but he's not the only later user.
Ashley:
20-May-2006
Agreed. %tour.r and associated images added (also added pie-chart 
to tour under 'Graphic' - previously 'Picture' - category).
Group: !Uniserve ... Creating Uniserve processes [web-public]
Tomc:
16-Mar-2005
the addres stuff you see at the top of an email has about as much 
to do with delivery as the picture on a postcard
Group: DevCon2005 ... DevCon 2005 [web-public]
JaimeVargas:
7-Jul-2005
I only get one picture of you and then it freezes and dies. With 
QT you will get on buffering and play a little then it will back 
to buffering...
DideC:
6-Aug-2005
VLC: I have the sound, but no more picture :(
Henrik:
6-Aug-2005
I get no picture with VLC
DideC:
6-Aug-2005
No picture with quicktime nor VLC !!!
Henrik:
6-Aug-2005
lower framerate, but the picture looks a bit clearer sometimes. there 
is less stability in the image though
DideC:
6-Aug-2005
Funny things is that QT give no sound, but VLC does (without picture).
It remember me last year!
Pekr:
7-Aug-2005
design of DevCon website is excellent. If RT would have such fresh 
look, it will make their public picture better. Good work,  Chris 
....
[unknown: 9]:
26-Sep-2005
Brock, as a company that is working very hard to make everything 
compatible between all the browser I can tell you that what it comes 
down to is that there are rules, but each browser company (or group) 
interprets the rules slightly differently.


The simplest example of goes wrong the most are the "assumptions." 
 EI for example will except <center> to mean center the page, and 
center pretty much everything until you turn </center> off.  


But Firefox follows the letter of the rules, and expects each object, 
like a table, to have its own <center> tags.


This is a simple visual example, it gets worse when JavaScript enters 
the picture.  Safari for example DEMANDS everything ending in a ";" 
or it simply ignores stuff.

They are almost always easy fixes, but time consuming.


Maarten, shame that Breeze will not work.  I looked at Breeze and 
voted not to use it to do a Rebol lesson.  Looked great on their 
page, but I read a lot of similar comments elsewhere on the web that 
it simply failed for too many people.  I was hoping that someone 
smart in this group would know what we could use both to solve our 
DevCon needs and the Rebol Newbie Lesson needs.


We need a way to broad cast at least one video signal, and allow 
moderated chat in the same environment for people all over the world. 
 This should be easier.  I have an Idea that might work, but will 
require some research.  I might just do this in Qtask.  Then anyone 
can log in from anywhere, talk in a group, have sub topics.  All 
we have to add is video streaming (which is actually pretty easy 
for us).  The trick is setup up the incoming real time stream, which 
I was not planning to do for a while.
Pekr:
27-Sep-2005
usually it does work up to 1600x1200 or so ... the problem lays otherwise 
- the picture is shrinked (if that is the correct term). It  is like 
with LCD - only one resolution is native ...
Group: Hardware ... Computer Hardware Issues [web-public]
Louis:
29-May-2006
Everything high def is expensive. Can you tell much difference in 
the picture quality?
Group: Sound ... discussion about sound and audio implementation in REBOL [web-public]
Anton:
8-Sep-2005
Mmm.. nice picture...
Rebolek:
8-Sep-2005
Henrik why not. But the GUI is not 100% finished so I hope it can 
be later replaced with better picture.
Group: Rebol School ... Rebol School [web-public]
[unknown: 9]:
4-Apr-2006
For example:



Find | Select | Pick | First | Second | Third | Forth | Fifth | and 
Sixth are all really the same command:


If you picture a master command with lots of settings (refinements) 
and even some conditional code (if refinement set, do x).
denismx:
5-May-2006
The "Rebol Essentials" is a good start. But I think I can break the 
approach down to still simpler steps. The difficulty I face is not 
having the broad, overall picture for Rebol. I am very conscious 
this limits my ability to make the best choices for the moment.
Janko:
2-Jan-2009
yes, that's why I was asking, you have all sorts of interesting thigns 
like do, reduce (rebol's), I have seen apply in R3 , so I see there 
should be a lot of interesting stuff possible but don't have a clear 
picture what is and what isn't yet
BrianH:
8-Jan-2009
Once you start adding Draw into it though, I lose the whole. With 
R2 there is also the broken port model, design flaws and legacy stuff, 
so I lose the big picture a lot quicker. Python I don't know much 
about, and C is getting more complex all the time. I guess it depends 
on the head.
Vladimir:
25-Apr-2009
1. What method would you recomend for printing invoices ?

    I promised my sister, I will make small aplication for invoices till 
    the end of this week :)

    I guess best way would be making HTML or PDF file and then leting 
    systm deal with actual printing ?

    Or making a face looking just like the needed document (like print 
    preview) and then printing that picture ?

2. Is there a way to scale face ? like zoom in and out ?
BudzinskiC:
31-May-2010
amacleod: Worked fine for me but I only tried it with a very small 
picture (the rebol logo actually), if you tried a big picture the 
resulting data link might be just too long for copy & paste actions 
(really long text almost always causes problems). Just replace the 
last line (editor imglink) with

write %somefile.html imglink
browse %somefile.html

And it "should" work with bigger pictures.
amacleod:
31-May-2010
I was able to embed a picture using outlook and it worked in gmail 
web mail...

What method does outlook use to embed images?
Ladislav:
12-Jul-2011
Moreover, BNFs, general formal grammars, etc... are actually systems 
that are meant to be usable for humans as well (at least mostly), 
in which case there is no implementation you could show to other 
people. (somebody wanting to show an x-ray picture of a human brain, 
or what???)
Group: Rebol/Flash dialect ... content related to Rebol/Flash dialect [web-public]
Rebolek:
13-Jan-2010
Nick, it's exactly what's supposed to be there :) It's a personal 
server and has no main page. There's only a picture that cahnges 
from time to time.
Group: Windows/COM Support ... [web-public]
Benjamin:
20-Oct-2005
All in one zip: (MS word only untill now incude some bug fixes)
• Add a Formatted Table to a Word Document.
• Add a Picture to a Microsoft Word Document.
• Add Formatted Text to a Word Document.
• Append Text to a Word Document.
• Apply a Style to a Table in a Word Document.
• Create a New Word Document.
• Create and Save a Word Document.
• Open and Print a Word Document.
• Save a Microsoft Word Document as an HTML File.
Download from:
http://www.geocities.com/benjaminmaggi/data/COMLib_Word_exmp.zip
Group: Tech News ... Interesting technology [web-public]
Henrik:
14-Jun-2006
http://graphics.stanford.edu/papers/lfcamera/<--- very interesting 
camera: take a picture, then choose the focus you want in the image.
[unknown: 10]:
28-Nov-2006
extra links + picture and in English too -> http://www.arabnews.com/?page=4&section=0&article=88962&d=18&m=11&y=2006
Anton:
31-Aug-2008
shadwolf, is "Syntoma" the brand of the LCD monitor ?

Having to wait 5 - 10 minutes before seeing a picture would be a 
waste of time.
Are you sure you cannot get your supplier to replace it ?

If you can fix it, that is good, but you have not earned any money. 
You will have lost both money and time.
Kaj:
31-Aug-2008
Case in point: it may look like a display, but if it doesn't display 
a picture, it really isn't
Graham:
2-Sep-2008
mine turn on .. just no picture
shadwolf:
2-Sep-2008
no picture ????  hum really  if you point a strong light source to 
it does it show you the screen content ?
Reichart:
12-Jan-2009
(I think I have a picture of Peter and myself in togas...which should 
not be held against him....  Everything is held against me...so I 
won't even defend myself).
[unknown: 5]:
19-Apr-2009
For example say the image is just a picture of a large ball or circle. 
 The person clicks the center of the circle and holds down to expand 
to the perimeter of the circle in the image and releases and this 
gets interpretes as radius back to the server.
Group: !REBOL3-OLD1 ... [web-public]
Pekr:
23-May-2006
it is a pity, I would like to form a bigger picture - how all those 
things will be organised - library interface, plug-in interface, 
View - will it be just a component? What is /platform, etc.? So, 
patience and wait mode? :-)
Anton:
10-Sep-2006
Yes, please.

I think I lost sight of the overall picture when I added /only and 
/pad-only. (Reminds me of a similar thought process in another frenetic 
function creation a year or two ago (?)) I was not thinking of the 
functionality that DELIMIT covered when I was "designing" those refinements. 
So on further reflection, it looks to me like you are right, for 
CONJOIN, using INSERT rather than INSERT/ONLY on the DATA values 
is more useful.
Pekr:
14-Nov-2006
but who knows - Carl promissed to post "bigger picture" diagram of 
R3, but maybe he forgot ....
Pekr:
15-Nov-2006
Gabriele - so if Carl did not forget, then the whole picture of architecture 
is not clear yet, or is it? :-)
Group: Plugin-2 ... Browser Plugins [web-public]
[unknown: 9]:
5-Jun-2006
How does double-clicking on a r file relate to the plugin?

Yeah, I can see why this subtlety is not clear…

Let's picture 60-90 million people coming across a .r file on the 
web…
What happens right now?
Pekr:
19-Jun-2006
can java-script open the socket? because rebol can by simply open 
tcp://1234 .... will be catched by firewall, if present - but would 
that be regarded a security problem? How far do we go with limiting 
rebol? It would be good to slowly get to rebol's security bigger 
picture, to prevent the final solution being inconsistent ....
[unknown: 5]:
4-Jul-2006
JoshM as long as the big picture includes the ability to authenticate 
by MS Proxy then I'm good.  This can allow me to make a plugin that 
can reach our printers via the network using their web interfaces.
Louis:
19-Sep-2006
It cannot be appreciated without the appropriate data. If you will 
each send me a picture of yourself (jpeg file), then I will see what 
I can do. Can the files be sent via AltME file sharing? I've never 
used it and would like to put it to a test.
Group: !Liquid ... any questions about liquid dataflow core. [web-public]
Maxim:
18-May-2007
is the gui an actual picture of the school's layout.
Group: !Cheyenne ... Discussions about the Cheyenne Web Server [web-public]
Maxim:
11-Jun-2007
I don't know how rsp fits into the picture, but once I have something 
of a remark loadable lib working, I'll try to get others to better 
define how to merge rsp and remark (mainly what rsp can add to remark... 
things like session control maybe).  maybe rsp doesn't even become 
relevant... more details to come as I work out all the parts of this 
endeavor.  btw, this effort is brought up by need... not just hobby 
fun.
Group: DevCon2007 ... DevCon 2007 [web-public]
Graham:
8-Feb-2007
focus = sharp picture, focus = concentrate
Pekr:
30-Apr-2007
Content of Carl's presentation was updated:

Introducing REBOL 3.0
 by Carl Sassenrath

(The content will be spread in probably more than one session)

Opening and a historical note.


What makes a system popular? Is it the language, the platform, or 
the applications? The bigger picture: the virtual OS. Moving beyond 
conventional OS models. Being a latform. The core of modern applications 
- it's not what you think.


The motivation for R3. The guiding theme. Portablity and extensibility 
- the R3 open foundation. Overview of R3 features.


Environments - embedding REBOL. Building your own version of REBOL 
- within a standard. Plugins - extending REBOL. The IO device model 
- how to create a device.


New datatypes. The Module architecture. Tasks, threads, and more. 
The new graphics system. All new port design. New debugging methods. 
New object tricks. DB access nd indexed files. IPv6 discussion. Compatibility 
- taming the lion. What's next? When and where can you get a copy? 
The goal of DevBase and DocBase.
Brock:
10-May-2007
ahhh, better picture ;-)
Pekr:
11-May-2007
What I miss so far is - more strategic view. We know little of R3, 
well, we know some bits, but still no bigger picture - integration 
strategies, what happens to View, what is the idea behind View, IOS, 
altME integration?
Group: Games ... talk about using REBOL for games [web-public]
btiffin:
31-Jan-2008
Grrr...  :)  I have no desire for millions, but ... I wrote and published 
a fantasy card game back in the early 80s; an entire decade before 
Magic the Gathering.  They made enough money to buy TSR.   Rassafrassa. 
 :)  Not to say my Monster Romp (tm) game competes with Magic;  I 
paid an artist a whole $3 for each picture, but had I flogged it 
I could be independently wealthy now instead of umm, not.  I have 
about 800 decks of the original 1000 run.  Sold 60 decks the one 
day I set up a booth to sell it, then gave away the rest.  From those 
days forward I promised myself to never pursue an idea.  Best to 
let them die on the operating table and skip the what if crap.  That 
is until I bump into a greedy partner.  Success requires greed imho, 
or at least a state of mind somewhere above "communist".  :)


Paul;  I'm not sure, but I posted this to the calendat back in July. 
 http://rebol/mustard.co.nz/rebtower-0.0.4.zip
Group: !CureCode ... web-based bugtracking tool [web-public]
shadwolf:
30-Aug-2008
that picture reminds me Ladybird a Database designer wirted in rebol 
(project by reprotizer and Coccinelle)
Anton:
6-Aug-2009
Hey Doc, is this picture of CureCode schema still current ?
http://softinnov.org/dl/DB-schema.png
Dockimbel:
6-Aug-2009
I didn't had the time yet to update the picture.
Group: DevCon2008 (post-chatter) ... DevCon2008 [web-public]
[unknown: 5]:
17-Dec-2008
Steeve it still shows your picture after you leave.
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