AltME groups: search

today you enter a secretary office there is windows XP  every where 
you enter a publisher/graphist maker you have apple every where? 
As there is less publisher than secretary  this explain as a short 
cut why there is sutch difference. When you enter a astronom office 
you have sun Sparc every where. As you get less astronom than plublisher 
you understand the difference betwin Apple and Sun :). Some people 
needs simplicity of use others need fiability of use. Then you have 
the rounding industry those building the sourrounded technologies 
in all cases they need to sell a lot this explain for example why 
a comon SONY MP3 sevice came with drivers to plug it to a PC equiped 
with windows and why they not giving apps and drvers to handle it 
under linux and unix.

I liked idea of a an ongoing weekly comp.. like back in 1999 http://web.archive.org/web/19991013041056/rebol.com/contest.html
. Haven't found the how to enter page though.

I've helped a couple of organizations evaluate messaging/groupware 
in the last couple of months.

In neither case did Altme make it to the shortlist.

Why? Same reason in both cases: zero tolerance for applications that 
lose data.


(If you are on dial-up or in any way have a slightly flakey connection, 
then this can happen: you type a message; you press enter; Altme 
notices the connection has gone bad; Altme automatically reconnects; 
Altme throws your message away: no warning, just thrown away).

Hm...  Top Ten...  Some of these undoubtedly will be held for the 
new architecture, but here's my top requests...


1) Group level settings for message notification (activate window, 
play sound)
2) Group name/description search

3) Opt out of public groups so that the group remains public but 
you don't see it.

4) Alphabetical listing of users in group properties (Who's in the 
group, who's not)

5) Navigaion (Forward, Backword) buttons would be really helpful 
particularly when browsing checklists OR clicking on the checklist 
button replaces the group lists with checklists.

6)  When you right click a message then a popup shows telling you 
the text has been copied. This is nice but annoying because you can't 
hit Enter and watch it disappear. I'd personally really prefer a 
context menu but if it just dissappeared after 3 seconds or so that 
would be good too.

Thanks for asking :-)

[1] Fix the resync bug so I don't to use the dot & guest tricks

[2] Don't throw away what I've typed when I press enter just because 
you need to reconnect
[3] Much, much faster search

[4] multi-world search -- should search all the worlds I specify, 
not just the current one
[5] Ability to opt out (and back in) to a Public world

[6] Don't delete messages from  my copy of a world just because the 
master has been restored from a backup

[7] Ability to restrict Guests in various ways (eg can only post 
to certain groups / can only see other groups)

What Sunanda said: [2] Don't throw away what I've typed when I press 
enter just because you need to reconnect.


Bookmarks. Let me tag messages/locations that are important and I 
want to be able to find again, no matter how old.

First time I have this error :
** Script Error: Invalid compressed data - problem: -3
** Near: script: decapsulate
if none? script
** Press enter to quit...

Yes its like volker says..Just a Display input, I often happens that 
by accident you type someting and hit enter.. ALTME can be used for 
Read-only in that case too.. Just to prefent yourself or someone 
else behind your PC for dropping data into input fields...

I'm sure this is a stupid question, but how do you enter a return 
(newline) into an AltMe entry directly, without precomposing your 
entry in a text editor or some such?

Yes... And I think that has something to do with a connection interruption 
on my side... clapping Ethernet ;-) the sync was finished but did 
not show it all.. I had to enter "something" in a group and then 
I synced and showed me the messages...

Altme 1.1.28 WinXP -> pressed a group after startup and got this 
-> Invalid data type during recycle
** Press enter to quit...

This code doesn't look like mine .. but I'm not sure which rebol 
app crashed


** Script Error: resolve-equivalences expected candidate argument 
of type: string
** Where: processCommands
** Near: distrib: resolve-equivalences pick parse input
** Press enter to quit...

Had to re-enter the user's message group to cure it

I've been getting lots of these errors lately for some reason ( Never 
had this problem before):

Invalid data type during recycle
** Press enter to quit...

Wonderful

*** AltME ERROR ***

Sorry, AltME found an error while it was starting up.
This should never happen, but it looks like it just did.
Go to http://www.altme.com/feedback.htmland cut/paste
the text below. We'll fix the problem right away! Thanks.

ERROR:  Error starting module: a00
[
    code: 303
    type: 'script
    id: 'expect-arg
    arg1: 'bind
    arg2: 'known-word
    arg3: [word!]
    near: [ctx-text: context bind ctx-text system/view]
    where: 'do-module
]
Press enter key

for the problem: See Chat group. :-) for the solution, maybe one 
could click on a quote button next to the timestamp on the item you 
wish to respond to. A single line could automatically be pasted with: 

Reichart said: "Give an example please."
enter text here

with "enter text here" not actually being there, but just the location 
of the cursor.

>> layout [b: field hide]
>> set-face b "123"
>> get-face b
== "123"
>> view layout [b: field hide]
(enter "123" in the field, tab away and close window)
>> get-face b
== "***"

Is this intentional?

1. click in the field and press Enter
2. press "change" button
3. click in the field and press Enter again.
In both cases, VALUE = "hello".

The reason is because ctx-text/edit-text calls the action block, 
but passes face/DATA  (not face/TEXT).

TEXT and DATA are related only at INIT and are not maintained by 
the access functions.

(Not me.)
Paul, go to a fresh console and type
>> hello
and press Enter.
Now you can see it was added to system/words:
>> last first system/words
== hello
So it is now unavailable to be used as an alias.
>> alias 'print "hello"
** Script Error: Alias word is already in use: hello
** Near: alias 'print "hello"

what I have in mind is very simple kind of select, not needing to 
enter whole search key ...

when i enter on rebol.org it's like i enter in a cementary or a museum 
!! it's not a place that's engaging people to get there often !

hide the second field by pressing the button, then go to the first 
field
and press enter, and the second field is showed again with focus.

I hope there is a simple way to void hidden objects get focus.

someone can help me?

I'm not really sure what you should use there, because it seems to 
me that rebol always reduces ^" to ", unless you enter them by hand.

update: I just extended make-doc-pro to support forms. Looks like 
this:

Test of Form Dialect in make-doc-pro

=toc

=options debug

===Introduction
This file test the form generation dialect.

\form test.cgi
	cgi-bin http://localhost/cgi-bin/

	; same-width with fields & buttons
	same-width left [
		field "Name1"
		field "Name12" 10
		field "Name123" 10 20
		field "Name"
		radio "R1" [Robby Linna Bunny Blacky]

		btn-enter "Abschicken"
		btn-cancel "Abbrechen"
	]

/form

I'm getting the following message using pdf-maker:


** Script Error: pick expected index argument of type: number logic 
pair
** Where: emit-space
** Near: if k: select/case pick kern

** Press enter to quit...** Script Error: pick expected index argument 
of type: number logic pair
** Where: emit-space
** Near: if k: select/case pick kern
** Press enter to quit...

Can anyone tell me what I am doing wrong?

OOPS! didn't mean to hit ENTER. sorry. Anyway, there used to be a 
test site at http://powerofq.com- it is no longer available, I believe 
that the test module was 'mysqlprot. are those resources still available?

that goes the same for .rip - fine format - bug ugly .... I want 
to enter all common archives as a directory of some kind ... so I 
want rebol to handle .zip and get rid of .rip

Though, maybe you could change the part where a return key continues 
the installation after reading grub doc. I was pressing enter to 
scroll down through the doc. I didn't notice I had reached the end 
of the doc when the prompt to continue the installation appeared. 
I just pressed enter again.

You have to boot the CD again and enter the GrUB shell. Please read 
the install.txt

http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages, at the bottom you can enter 
a filename and usually get its package. most libs have compat-somethings. 
i guess the packages on ubuntu are similar, and that they have a 
similar page. (my link shows in german here, i guess thats some smartness. 
you should see something in your language).

ah, I got syntax error in my sql statement, sorry. Now CGI runs in 
linux console by pressing enter in midnight commander, but not from 
the browser :-)

well, I run it from Midnight Commander, maybe it is why I can run 
it .... I just press enter on script. In fact, that is how I verify, 
if the script works at all in CGI mode ...

setting permission to executable for a directory allows you to enter 
it

why can I enter each other dir, but not db dir?

so to enter directory, I need to set x bit for it?

thanks ... the problem probably was, that for a directory, there 
needs to be "execute" bit set, or you can't enter it ...

imho;  Ubuntu is the current up and comer.  Ubuntu ships with a defaut 
set of packages more tuned for running Gnome as the desktop.  Kubuntu 
ships with a default KDE setup.  The Ubuntu family is spin off of 
Debian ... Debian is my personal favourite.  The RHEL branches don't 
seem to do it for me quite as much.  Ubuntu is well supported with 
a growing community and a fairly well off benefactor.   Canonical 
is funded.  I'm pretty sure they still support the WeShipIt program 
where you can order CD's for free - shipping paid by Canonical.  
Pretty sweet.  But imho Debian is a little more solid; years between 
releases.  Canonical likes to stick to a 6 month updgrade schedule. 
 So you get new shiny every 6 months, but ... running a business 
on it, I prefer the soak time Debian affords.


GNU/Linux commands are fairly standard across the board.  It's the 
config, and helper apps that diverge the most.  (That alone causes 
a mess in GNU/Linux land but POSIX is POSIX).  Things don't really 
diverge low-level till you enter the other free unix clones like 
FreeBSD.  One thing to watch on the horizon is OpenSolaris.  If it 
rolls out as it should, it could well be the player to take in Linus. 
 And Ian Murdoch (the man beside Debra in Debian) works at Sun now, 
so ...


In short, Ubuntu good.   :)   But, I prefer it's parent, Debian. 
 If you check the IRC channels on Freenode, #debian is ruthless, 
brooks no guff, with awesome technical support.  #ubuntu seems a 
little more people friendly and perhaps more likely to effectively 
help new users.  Umm, don't go asking Ubuntu questions on #debian. 
 They seem to have a little bit of jealousy toward the younger upstart 
with all the flash cash.  :)


distrowatch.com will tell you pretty much anything you want to know.

How do you launch rebol otherwise ?

I've set up my start menu so it's a few key presses away. The sequence 
is: Ctrl-Esc (to open the menu), down right down enter. (Actually 
now I think about it, I can reduce this a little bit.)

I like Mozilla's Find-as-type facility ... you simply start writing 
word and cursor moves around the screen - F3 - next occurance, enter 
- choose, backspace - back to previous page etc

Hi ... I have following task to acomplish ..... my friend who is 
doing college in archeology, is working on her thesis. Part of the 
thesis are images of various ancient goods. So we've got photos from 
our digital camera. I will produce small View script, which will 
allow her to enter comments for each image. Now I want to do a template 
(table?), with various layouts, mainly two images per A4 page plus 
comments under each of those images. Can I influence table cell size? 
My past experience was, that the cell got resized according to image. 
Are there also various methods, how to "stretch" the image in cell? 
thanks a lot for pointers ...

Visit  http://www.TGD-Consulting.de/Download.htmland take a look 
at

the final release of Hex-It!. (I posted on behalf of Dirk Weyand, 
since he cannot reach AltME)


Hex-It! is a small but powerful hex-editor. You can use this tool 
to analyse
or alter the "fingerprints" for any kind of files.

Known first as a contribution to the REBOL Demo 2006 contest, the 
final
release with enhanced features is available now.
Features of Hex-It! v1.2.0:
---------------------------
* cross platform hex-editor

* free "save-feature" for small files sized lesser 15 KB, to edit 
larger
  files purchase a license-key that unlocks this limitation
* enhanced spot navigation with mouse scroll-wheel support
* non blocking file access 

* support of large files (a maximum chunk of 1MB file-data is only 
held in
  memory at once)
Some notes and useful tips & tricks on the usage of Hex-It!:
------------------------------------------------------------

- Modifications of files were automatically saved on exit, if you 
load

another file or if a different chunk of the same file is selected.
- Byte selection:

  + Select a byte with a left mouse button (LMB) click on the hexadecimal
    values to the left. The byte is highlighted then.

  + If a byte is selected, either use the cursor keys or the scroll-wheel 
  of
    the mouse to scroll through the bytes of the file.

  + Change a selected byte with plus (+) & minus (-) or just enter 
  its

    new value. Single characters, three digit numbers or single hexadecimal
    values are valid.

  + Use the right mouse button (RMB) to deselect a highlighted byte.
- Spot-navigation:

  + The spot specifies the index/position of a byte in the file. If 
  no byte

    is selected it shows the position of the top left byte displayed. 
  + Enter a number to set directly the spot to a byte-position.

  + Skip a certain amount of bytes relative to the current spot by 
  using

    plus (+) & minus (-), e.g. "+10000" skips 10000 bytes forward and
    "-1000" skips 1000 bytes backwards. 

  + Skip to end of file: Click with the RMB on the arrow-down Spot-button
    or use the "End"-Key.

  + Skip to first byte of file: Click with the RMB on the arrow-up
    Spot-button or use the "Home"-Key. 
- Seek:
  + ASCII- or Hex-Strings are valid queries.

  + LMB click on the "Seek"-button seeks from the current position.

  + RMB click on the "Seek"-button seeks from the beginning of the 
  file.

Please note, that the license of this release is not BSD like anymore.

It's easy, I just hit enter and watch the times:-)

Anyone seen this error before which has been reported to me


* Script Error: External process failed: %1 is not a valid Win32 
applic
ation.
 
** Near: launch "webserver"
view center-face loginlo
** Press enter to quit...

where "webserver" is just the argument for the 'launch command.

is blitting using just new/faster routines, or has in anything in 
common internally with how fast you can enter event loop (time wise), 
to call 'show?

Another question: what is required to use view-request.r with enface? 
I keep getting an error message:

** Script Error: sky has no value
** Where: context
** Near: color: sky size: 2x2
** Press enter to quit...


I just want a calander to pop up to request a date.  Is another source 
module required besides view-request.r?

This work with View:


x: info? ftp://user:[pass-:-ftp-:-bible-way-:-org]/www/turk/backup/enter-data.exe


But when encapped with encmdface 2.6.2 it generates an error.  Anybody 
know why?

URL Parse: user pass ftp.bible-way.org none www/turk/backup/ enter-data.exe
Net-log: ["Opening" "tcp" "for" "FTP"]
** Access Error: Cannot connect to ftp.bible-way.org
** Where: open-proto

** Near: info? ftp://user:[pass-:-ftp-:-bible-way-:-org]/www/turk/backup/enter-data.exe
** Press enter to quit...

But in View it works fine:

Type desktop to start the Viewtop.

>> web-file: info? ftp://user:[pass-:-ftp-:-bible-way-:-org]/www/turk/backup/enter-data.exe
connecting to: ftp.bible-way.org
>> probe web-file
make object! [
    size: 626343
    date: 3-Mar-2006/11:37
    type: 'file
]
>>

** Near: info? ftp://user:[pass-:-ftp-:-bible-way-:-org]/www/turk/backup/enter-data.exe
** Press enter to quit..

Set-Net not provided.
** Script Error: stylize has no value
** Near: stylize [
    wmtxt: text "Test" 255.255.0 font-size 16
    wtext: text " " 640 as-is no-wrap black white
    box: box...
** Press enter to quit...

The main problem I have with the SDK is that it makes it harder to 
find bugs. Does anyone have any idea what is causing this error message:

** Script Error: bind expected known-word argument of type: word
** Near: ctx-text: context bind ctx-text system/view
** Press enter to quit...

yes, pressing enter under the linux midnight commander runs cgi in 
console. I just can't get it to work from browser, but that might 
be another problem ...

By symlink, he means symbolic link. Enter "man ls" on your Linux 
command line without the quotes for more info.

Oldes, I have to eat some words. 2.6.2 encaps the script. But when 
I run the encapped script I get this error message:

Misplaced item: "imanXw"
** Script Error: Cannot use path on word!
value
** Near: insert tail funds fb/1
** Press enter to quit...

If I encap with 2.6.2, including %view.r also from 2.6.2 the script 
does not run, but instantly gives this error message:

** Script Error: exchange-rate has no valu
e
** Where: switch
** Near: forall args [
    val: first args
    switch/default type?/word val [
        pair! [append pairs val]
        integer...
** Press enter to quit...

as for more complex styles - they need to work. I can imagine even 
"focus nesting". Imagine few fields, grid and buttons on screen. 
You e.g. press arrow down to move to next fields, and once you reach 
grid, I would like e.g. by pressing enter, the focus to be treated 
in terms of the grid, so that arrows, page-up, down, etc. work in 
terms of grid only ... ESC would "break" and return focus to "global" 
level, etc.

for example Image I'm a commercial I need to set for tomorow a schedule 
with some client what would be grphically better for me ? click add 
button and then select the date user request date or Click Add button 
then use spinner to select the proper date and time and enter an 
entry to the topic field :)

As long as it can be fixed.  I have a screen I want the user to enter 
the password twice :)

do %rebgui.r
display "RebGuiTest" compose/deep/only [
        label "Query" t: text 40 "" return
		a: area 100x50 "In the beginning, "
        button "Insert" [
				insert a/text "Title{}"
				; edit-text a enter

    insert tail a/text "And from a barely documented VID, a need for 
    something bare but easy to document: RebGui.  And the user saw it 
    was good."
				; edit-text a enter
				show a
        ]

do [at face/pane/3/text 10 insert tail face/pane/3/text "there was 
View 1.3.  "]
] ; End Display
do-events

How to move the cursor to inside the brackets of Title{->Here<-}.

How to enter a newline, and more generally use the function defined 
in rebgui-edit.r into the area?
** Script Error: edit-text has no value
** Where: action
** Near: edit-text a enter

More generally, how to enter a string and move the cursor after the 
insertion of it.  Thanks for an answer to this 'II am New' question 
pertaining to RebGui.

** Script Error: white has no value
** Where: context
** Near: edit: white
over: gold
menu:
** Press enter to quit...

Error message when running tour.r with the new encap.

next error .. got the splash screen now, and then this

** Script Error: Cannot use path on word! value
** Where: init
** Near: effect/4: size - image/size
** Press enter to quit...

** Script Error: focus expected face argument of type: object
** Where: switch
** Near: focus f
if f/type =
** Press enter to quit...

** Script Error: Cannot use path on none! value
** Where: edit-text

** Near: if all [tmp/x < 0 tmp2/x < 0] [face/para/scroll/x: tmp2/x 
- tmp/x]
tmp3:
** Press enter to quit...

on tabbing out of an edit box.

Try this:


 field [show-text face now/time/precise]	; press enter in the field

display "" [ group-box 60x20 "Test" data [ a: field 40 [ show-focus 
f]] return group-box 60x20 "Test2" data
[ f: field 40 ]] do-events
** Script Error: Cannot use path on none! value
** Where: edit-text

** Near: if all [tmp/x < 0 tmp2/x < 0] [face/para/scroll/x: tmp2/x 
- tmp/x]
tmp3:


After typing a few times in the top field, and then hitting enter, 
the error above can occur.

Yep, that works.  Thanks.  I am trying to provide field level data 
validation so do need actions to fire on tab as well as on enter.

display "" [ group-box 60x20 "Test" data [ a: field 40 [ show-focus 
f]] return group-box 60x20 "Test2" data
[ f: field 40 ]] do-events


type abcd in the top field, hit enter.  Type abc in the bottom field, 
and hit enter.  Then hilite all the chars in the top field, enter 
a single character, and hit enter.  

** Script Error: Cannot use path on none! value
** Where: edit-text

** Near: if all [tmp/x < 0 tmp2/x < 0] [face/para/scroll/x: tmp2/x 
- tmp/x]
tmp3:
>>

This is version 3.6

Back in old DOS days, with tools we worked with, we had following 
available:


1) VTG (Variable To Get) function - you could specify VTG$("AB"), 
and user was able to only enter A or B letter, nothing more - we 
used it to limit letters for floppy disk access


2) we had system of field-masks .... e.g. tel-number: (999) - 999 
999 - then all non num chars were displayed in field, you could not 
delete them, they were skipped, and you was only able to write numbers 
.... if you wanted to allow chars, you used "X" insted of "9". Pretty 
powerfull concept - not too much complicated, and allowing you to 
limit bugs ppl can enter ...

One of the most difficult fields was date entry field 99.99.9999, 
with VO we had three or more implementations. Native one pretty sucked 
- it is all about what chars you allow, what happens if you press 
tab, del, how is field hilighted by default, what part is hilighted, 
if your backspace key deleting letters stops at dot or not etc ec. 
With date field - do you want to allow user to enter any number? 
67 or other number is surely not a good day-number, is it? :-) Now 
do you want to disallow user to type nonsense directly? How do you 
know without linking it to calendar? Or do you do your validation 
when leaving your field? Some ppl do validation once per form, e.g. 
when you try to press "Save" button (not my preferred way, at least 
for some field-types, but some do prefer that) ...

Note the following user-configurable blocks under ctx-rebgui/edit:

	tabbed: [area field edit-list password button]

	hilight-on-focus: [field edit-list]

	caret-on-focus: [area field edit-list password]

	action-on-enter: [field edit-list password]


But its probably a good idea to agree on the "correct" default behaviour 
anyway.

and also, if <enter> in middle of editing text, cursor goes to end

and if editing text, and text wraps, then enter a space, cursor jumps 
to end.

Tom started this group with a reference to
http://www.rebol.net/cookbook/requests.html

It's a set of outstanding requests for cookbook entries -- ie examples 
that people would like to see.

As he says.some have been done independently of the request, and 
published on the REBOLn Altmes or the Mailing List.

It'd be a great collective community New Year's resolution to clear 
some of the cookbook request by the end of the month (and that leaves 
plenty of time to enter the competition too)

RebGUI, something new to me. In fact, we probabably just need an 
interface to enter data and start some process and show the results. 
Maybe draw a graph with the results - that would be great. Will look 
into it. Tks.

P.S.  In AltMe, what do you guys type to get a carriage return without 
sending the AltMe message until you do an <enter>

basicly if I enter Binary mode, upload fails and it looks like it 
has to do something with port above 35000 problem.
If I enter passive mode nothing works....
it always responds with network timeout....

sorry for my terrible english (I should read the text before I press 
enter:)  I meant convert bitmap (pixels) to vectors

(argh, switched "send on enter" on)

ah, rambo got spammed once again ... I think that we will have to 
introduce View generated visual numbers, which you will have to enter 
into some field ... that seems to be the only protection ....

Actually I based it on your skype.r app. All it does is set the audioin 
and audioout settings. I have a Plantronics bluetooth handset and 
earpiece but it doesn't support Skype voicemail messages so every 
time I received one I had to go to the tools and switch out the audio 
to my computer speakers and back again. It also seems to cause some 
slight interference when I had to enter touchtones so I wrote this 
little gui that simply lets me change those. Nothing special but 
it is a real time saver and with the touchtones a call saver since 
you have to enter tones pretty qucikly sometimes.

IE 7 is one of the buggiest pieces of garbage I've ever come across.. 
here's one problem I had.. (a quoted solution.)

This is just so 
Microsoft" it should almost be expected.


I had recently installed IE7 in an unsupported way using the instructions 
found here.  The nice thing about this, is that it lets you run IE7 
side by side with IE6.  As a developer, there's no way to just let 
IE7 install itself over IE6, so I thought this would be a good solution.


Fired up IE7 for the first time and it took about 2 minutes for me 
to realize there is just no possible reason why anybody would find 
this useful at all.  Not for end users... not for developers... it 
just doesn't work right.  The new toolbars are not that special either, 
IMO.


So, that was it.  At least for Beta 2.  Fast-forward one week and 
I'm doing some serious testing of one of my new apps.  Of course, 
I'm testing on the fly in Firefox but testing in both browsers after 
finishing all pieces of major functionality.  Enter my URL into IE, 
press enter... and bang... up comes Firefox with the page I loaded!?!?! 
 Uh... what?


Google to the rescue.  A search for "IE Launches Firefox" returned 
only 2 results... but luckily, one of them had the solution.  It 
seems that a registry key installed when IE7 is run causes this situation. 
 Just brilliant.  From the IE Blog... locate this registry key and 
remove it: HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{c90250f3-4d7d-4991-9b69-a5c5bc1c2ae6}

As stated... it fixed my problem.  Thanks Microsoft...

then, when you enter new order into 'orders, you simply assign it 
to company, by using and storing foreign key, so 'company-id ...

help db-update is a good start. ;) For a full list of db functions 
just enter "help db-" at the console.

I read "manifest typing" and it is strange - even if you set your 
column as an integer, it allows you to enter non-integer data ...

It seems to work without the newlines, but then the ps file become 
difficult to enter with e.g. vim. That part is fast, I think. It 
only put in a newline for every 80 chars.

The changes are:


- Stores the font size inside PS every time a new font is selected. 
This is not used however, but perhaps is useful in the future.

- Added bottom, middle and top alignment for TEXT. Similarly to how 
you specify a size for LEFT, CENTER and RIGHT, you can enter a size 
for TOP, MIDDLE and BOTTOM:

Some text
 center 400 middle 200

Both sets are optional. The default alignment is LEFT and BOTTOM.

My changes are marked HMK in the source. I hope it is of use.

Maybe a native 'field, which is not accessible from the script until 
"enter", and allowing pasting there? Rebol3, how much protection 
can modules give?

this layout for example: 

column [
	header "enter text"
	field
]

will popup a window which stretches only in x by default

WinXP Professional, latest patches. I run it just from Total Commander 
by pressing enter on Cheyenne.r It runs on 8080 port, everything 
seems to be OK, except random timeouts, as they were present in the 
past. Now with 4RSP demo I got at least first session frame OK, then 
it crashed imediatelly with above error ...

Now I got the same error even when pressed enter to log-in. Maybe 
some weird stuff on my machine, but Apache was running OK. I ended 
Apache and turned Cheyenne back to port 80.

If you want to try this method for windows.. here's what you do.. 


1) download the windows binary from openssl.. ->   http://www.slproweb.com/products/Win32OpenSSL.html

2) Unzip.. and pull out the openssl.exe file from the bin folder.. 
. drop that file into your cheyenne www folder
3) Create a self-signed cert....
3a) run openssl.exe

3b) enter this line: req -x509 -nodes -days 365 -newkey rsa:1024 
-keyout localhost.pem -out localhost.pem
(localhost is the cert name)

3c) answer the questions... when asked 'who are you?' enter your 
domain,  or 'localhost' as I did 

This will generate the cert in your www folder (this is just a demo... 
the openssl server uses it's location as root www folder)

4) Start up the server... enter this line into openssl:  s_server 
-accept 443 -cert localhost.pem -WWW


Now open any file in your Cheyenne www folder using the https:// 
 protocol

https://www.compkarori.co.nz/newpatient.rsp


if I enter "123 ABC street" on the street1 and submit, the dehex 
result is "3 ABC Stree"

you have my httpd.cfg above - does it seem to be configured properly? 
my php is coming from .zip, I copied it to c:\php, went to this directory, 
typed php-cgi -b 999 (enter)

What are guys trying to do on their notebook? :-) I know one magic 
solution C:\> format c: (enter)

James, do me a favour, click that little icon of the pen above the 
new messsage input window.  Then enter your list again in "one entry"

You will need to press control + S to send it, or press teh send 
button.

Then I can copy your list easily, and work on it.

Strange, if you keep clicking on the [refresh] link, it loops endlessly, 
but if you click inside the address bar and hit Enter key, it works.

BrianH, on 21-Jan 11:16 PM you said : "Do a server-side redirect 
to a get page when you go into edit mode on a ticket or comment update."


I'm not sure to understand the "server-side redirect to a get page" 
part. When you click on a ticket ID or comment [Edit] button, you 
enter in edit mode using a GET request. What would a redirect improve 
here? Is it related to the browser Back button and client cache management?

For now go to the address bar and hit enter, repeat until it gets 
through.

The broadcast room is currently available for any presenter to prepare 
and become familiar with the interface.  If anyone would like would 
like to practice, or if anyone needs help preparing, I have free 
time available throughout the week.  You're welcome to freely enter 
and use the broadcast room - please just close the broadcast page 
completely when you're done practicing.