World: r4wp

While I believe that a man should be paid a fair wage for his mental 
or physical efforts, I disagree with coming up with exotic ways to 
extract money from others.  And the only reason that a wage needs 
to be paid at all is that living is currently not free for most people.

There is a difference between self-interest and selfishness.

It is on the same fine line between altruisme and stupidity.

Arnold agreed.  I'm suggesting that a group can be otherminded and 
in the process protect and promote the interests of the individuals 
in it.  It requires a clear vision that transcends the group and 
its members, a strong leader who can articulate that vision, and 
individuals who can consider the needs of others as more important 
than themselves.  It worked on the soccer field with my teams, it 
worked a some large companies and it works in small businesses that 
I am aware of around the United States.

Trust is a huge factor, in the vision, in the leadership and in the 
other members of the group.

the best structure is when bosses are told to empower employes (at 
all levels of management) and resonsabilities are properly attributed 
and taken.

Maxim. This + alot. But it is more than empowerment, it's other-mindedness 
with empowerment.  You can empower nacisistic people and get dysfunction.

The boss I ever had had a very healthy philosophy... when I'm doing 
nothing and everything is happening, I'm doing my job.  his philosophy 
was simple.  hire competent people, give them all the rope anyone 
needs to hang themself.  but make sure the noose is strong.

the boss == the best boss

a lot of bad human traits only flourish when they are cultivated 
in poor conditions.   when everyone is happy, feels like he's useful 
and appreciated... most unhealthy habits just leave because they 
have no place to root.  when everyone is happy, the rotten apple 
often, just leaves or gets told to change by everyone.

but... in ANY company... this is always a reflection of the person 
at the top.

The Fossil announcement would be more appropriate in ~Links.

Do you think so? It was an action of mine on the service of my Red 
bindings

I've made similar announcements on previous occasions

Yes, as I saw nothing Red-specific in it.

If a majority here feels the same way, I'll change my announcement 
policy

I don't mind seeing Kaj's announcements in the announce group.

I'm OK either way. I go back to Announce more for REBOL/Red related 
things, which this is related to.

Kaj: I just downloaded the Win version of your GTK-Browser.exe app 
and the dozen of DLLs  required to run it and then it runs. But when 
I click on the Go button, nothing goes on. How is it supposed to 
react exactly ? The Quit button runs OK and the app is left.

Doc has just reported that it doesn't work on Windows. We're looking 
into it

By the way, you can download all the files, including the libraries, 
in one go

http://web.syllable.org/news/2012-11-18-20-47-Red-high-level-programming-language-first-alpha.html

Kaj - are you after the ReBrowser, as Carl envisioned it? :-) Looks 
like R2 desktop replacement ... kind of ....

Yep

Fossil standardises on UTF-8 and standard line endings in text files. 
I suppose I should not link to single files anymore. From a folder 
in Fossil's web UI, you can at least view those files

To be able to handle such a file on Windows, you should either have 
an auto-converting editor, or convert them yourself. On the other 
hand, REBOL does it automatically

Gerard, which Windows version do you have?

I've tested that the GTK-browser and most other example programs 
work on Windows XP and WINE. So far, the problem seems to be limited 
to Windows 7

I have the same problems with XP.
The exe does nothing but the url line.

If I try to do or read  the .red from the console-pro, the console 
window closes.

Odd. Can you open the .red files when you copy them to your local 
machine? I haven't been able to test networking on XP yet, but it 
works in WINE

I have found a problem on Windows with reading files with Windows 
newlines, but reading Unix files is fine

I tried to do that with local .red files.

The ones on our Redsite? Others are meant for the compiler, not the 
interpreter

MaxV happy to see you're able to produce those builds.  its an inspiration 
for others to continue to submit and keeps the momentum going :-)

Are there builds? I only see source

make directory

Oh, Windows only

(And outdated as well.)

Yes, they seem to be just Saphirion's builds

Kai, the behavior that console-pro closes after reading a file is 
still present

Local files?

Which file are you trying?

Do you get any messages?

Just plain textfiles e.g. there is no message or error.

Android release: That is great Robert!

To AdrianS: you should have seen that the pull requests to the mainline 
source repository have started

(it is in the "Announce" group as well)

Also, please post related questions here, please, not to the "Announce" 
group

I have seen that, but what I was asking about is the actual source 
tree that Saphirion is using. I got the impression from Robert, some 
time ago, that it was somehow being 'cleaned up' and would be made 
public in some way.

For example it would be nice to see the actual Android work in progress.