World: r3wp

That's also my point, achieving the necessary simplicity has been 
too hard so far and has failed.

You might get 80% there with this approach ... but not all the way

The 80% however makes it seem that you can get all the way...

I'm not sure what that means. The 80% rule is part of good design 
for where you need to be, not for where we currently are with VID. 
VID does not follow the 80% rule since its incomplete.

load-gui.r must be update to check the Rebol version and print an 
error if it is not compatible.

what was the last version compatible with load-gui?

Work in A96, doesn't in A99. I don't have A97 nor A98 to check !

The last version it works under is: R3-a97-3-1

I'd say complex systems out there have proven that they don't scale

We have setup official R3-GUI download place: http://www.rm-asset.com/code/downloads/files/r3-gui.r3.zip

To access all our stuff directly: http://www.rm-asset.com/code/downloads/

Thanks, Robert!

Maybe provide a unzipped download for the r3-gui as well? So that 
we can directly DO the url?

Ok, that's possible as well. I just wanted to avoid any encoding 
clashes. Will add it. One second.

Ok, done. We will add more stuff like the style browser. I need to 
talk to the guys how to best do it, so that it all works right out-of-the-box.

Great, thanks!

Constructive feedback for current release always welcome.

Maybe I'm doing something wrong...

R3 current version: 2.100.110.3.1
It was released on: 2-Nov-2010/3:55:04.875

Your version is current.
>> do %r3-gui.r3

Script: "R3 GUI - load and start" Version: $Id: $ Date: 9-Dec-2010/10:32:04+1:00

>> change-dir %test-framework
== %test-framework

>> list-dir

core-tests.r   cpl_2_100_110_3_1.log         docs/          flags.r	test-framework.r
>> do %test-framework.r
Script: "Untitled" Version: none Date: 16-Jul-2010/13:05:26+2:00
Testing...
file: core-tests.r
LOAD/next removed. Use TRANSCODE.

Done, see the log file: /C/Documents and Settings/striker/Bureau/R3/test-framework/cpl_2_100_110_3_1.log
Total: 1 Succeeded: 0 Failed: 1


Log file :

file: core-tests.r

failed, file parsing unsuccessful
Total: 1 Succeeded: 0 Failed: 1

Why ?

This setup will raise the release frequency of R3-GUI a lot as we 
will use automatic scripts to update it on the server.

Nice, direct DO of r3-gui works fine for me (with custom-built A110 
view).

If you are worried about encoding issues have the web server serve 
.r3 files in binary mode. DO reads the files in binary.

There shouldn't be any unless you use binary compression or a checksum 
without compression.

I meant: There shouldn't be any encoding problems to worry about 
even without that unless ...

Nicolas, the expression:

do %test-framework.r

surely does not behave as you described

(unless you changed the original file)

I see the same behaviour Nicolas describes.

Using the (older) test framework sources published on the RM Asset 
website:

http://www.rm-asset.com/code/downloads/files/test-framework.zip

Aha, that is an old version, OK

We need to update this one too.

Juste re-download R3, r3-gui.r3 on another computer...

>> do %r3-gui.r3

Script: "R3 GUI - load and start" Version: $Id: $ Date: 9-Dec-2010/10:32:04+1:00

** access error: cannot open: shape reason: "module not found"

>> upgrade
Fetching upgrade check ...

Script: "REBOL 3.0 Version Upgrade" Version: 1.0.1 Date: 7-Apr-2009
Checking for updates...

R3 current version: 2.100.110.3.1
It was released on: 2-Nov-2010/3:55:04.875

Your version is current.
>>

nve, you need a "view" build of R3 in order for the GUI to work.

I think I will add the R3 build we use to the web-site as well...

You can either build one from the Hostkit yourself, or use e.g. the 
pre-built one provided by Henrik:
http://94.145.78.91/files/r3/gui/r3.exe
http://94.145.78.91/files/r3/gui/r3lib.dll

I'm going to upload our internal build in a couple of minutes.

Ok, loading r3-gui.r3 is ok now.
Still have failed for test-framework.

Ok, uploaded.

Seems to be better.  But what is final result expected ?

>> do %test-framework.r

Script: "Test-framework" Version: none Date: 19-Nov-2010/15:00:45+1:00

Script: "Line number" Version: none Date: 1-Nov-2010/14:21:20+1:00
Script: "Catch-any" Version: none Date: 3-Nov-2010/4:58:46+1:00
== make object! [
    log-file: none
    log: make function! [[report [block!]][
        write/append log-file to binary! rejoin report
    ]]
    skipped: none
    test-failures: none
    crashes: none
    dialect-failures: none
    succeeded: none
    failures: none
    exceptions: make object! [
        return: "return/exit out of the test code"
        error: "error was caused in the test code"
        break: "break or continue out of the test code"
        throw: "throw out of the test code"
 ...

nve, the test framework runs roughly 4000+ tests and reports the 
results. See the "testing & tools" group for more details.

I tried to use SciTe editor to run a simple gui script: rebol [] 
 do %r3-gui.r3 view [button]

What I got in the output pane is: REBOL 3.0 A110 2-Nov-2010/3:56:20
handler added

but no window appeared

running the same script from command console: "r3.exe testgui.r3" 
works just fine. It opens a new console window with the same output 
" REBOL 3.0 A110 2-Nov-2010/3:56:20 handler added" and another window 
showing the button

In Scite, I configured the command Go (F5) as:

command.go.$(file.patterns.rebol)=c:\Users\awi\Documents\rebol\r3.exe 
"$(FilePath)"
so nothing different here

Maybe anyone has a tip how to fix this, I know this is SciTe problem, 
but I wonder whether other editor has the same problem. Thanks!

Add this to your configuration, and you will be able to use Ctrl-5 
to run rebol3. Change the path as needed.
command.name.5.$(file.patterns.rebol)=RunRebol3File

command.5.$(file.patterns.rebol)="C:\usr\local\rebol3\r3.exe" "$(FilePath)"
command.subsystem.5.*=2
command.is.filter.5=1

Cool! Thanks a lot Edgar! I really appreciate this.

Could style browser be updated too? It basically crashes with any 
click I tried to the style's list-box ...

The same occurs here, so we'll have to wait for Bolek to fix it.

Pekr, that's list-box (text-list) style problem. This style is currently 
updated to support more columns than one (called text-table) and 
text-list will be only sub-case of text-table.

The new distribution channel may bring problems like this for regural 
users, at least before BETA is reached. Some developers prefer to 
put changes to SVN only when everything is ready, other developers 
prefer to push changes more often, it might temporarily broke functionality, 
but  it's much more crash-proof strategy.

It's a question to debate if every submit should be a release, or 
if only some special versions should be released, with first option, 
you will get latest release, that may be broken because of we're 
still in alfa-phase, with second option you will get more or less 
working release, but you're definitly going to complain that it's 
not updated too often (even if my estimate of 1-2x week is hit.)

fails for me on any test of mine with  
** Script error: path styl/faced is not valid for none! type