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[!Cheyenne] Discussions about the Cheyenne Web Server

Graham
9-Jul-2010
[8438]
yes
Dockimbel
9-Jul-2010
[8439]
REBOL is not even fast enough to write a code editor with syntax 
coloring...a WP is out of reach ;-)
Graham
9-Jul-2010
[8440x3]
My CRM apps .. the bottleneck is I/O not Rebol
That's a fault with the view implementation
So, what advantages do you see being lost with a port to the JVM 
or .Net ?
Dockimbel
9-Jul-2010
[8443]
compactness :)
Maxim
9-Jul-2010
[8444]
actually, REBOL is fast enough... its the R2 integration to AGG is 
which is quite poor.
Graham
9-Jul-2010
[8445]
doesn't sound like a big loss .. most people I see already have .net 
or the jre already installed
Dockimbel
9-Jul-2010
[8446]
but Graham, I'm not against a jvm and .net port, it would be a good 
thing
Graham
9-Jul-2010
[8447]
i know, you're just against being the person to do it: :)
Dockimbel
9-Jul-2010
[8448x2]
well, as I'm not a jvm nor .net fan, I might not be the right person 
for the job ;-)
I might try with .net thought, the VM is more dynamic languages friendly 
than the jvm.
Graham
9-Jul-2010
[8450]
And there is mono
Dockimbel
9-Jul-2010
[8451x2]
Isn't mono still lagging behind too much?
in terms of supported features
Maxim
9-Jul-2010
[8453]
given the choice, I'd use .net instead of java. the only issue is 
that it relies tooo much on the IDE, which becomes so sluggish on 
complex setups that its not funny.
Graham
9-Jul-2010
[8454]
and neither run on the iPad ...
Maxim
9-Jul-2010
[8455x2]
MS IDEs crash regularly in a typical work session... plus every new 
release, you have to refactor stuff... its just really not nimble.
anyhow... we are pretty OT  ;-)
Graham
9-Jul-2010
[8457]
Is the Da Vinci project still going strong ?? http://openjdk.java.net/projects/mlvm/
Dockimbel
9-Jul-2010
[8458x2]
long time I haven't looked at Da Vinci...
yes it's OT, I'll stop here ;-)
Graham
9-Jul-2010
[8460]
bottom line... only Cheyenne is being maintained
Dockimbel
9-Jul-2010
[8461x3]
right
I could do some hotfix to CureCode too if required
but no evolution (for now at least)
Graham
9-Jul-2010
[8464]
There was a wish to add a documentation type to curecode
Dockimbel
9-Jul-2010
[8465]
ah, that could be added easily, I'll try to scan the CC channel here 
to see look for easy changes this weekend.
Graham
9-Jul-2010
[8466]
Just to allow users to add examples of how to use functions etc .. 
since many people do not have access to the various "wiki"s
Terry
10-Jul-2010
[8467x4]
Doc, the websocket problem discussed earlier seems related to this.. 
http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=28453
things work fine as long as i use a domain name, but as soon as I 
go localhost:81 or 127.0.0.1:81, it goes south.
It also seems ok if using default port 80..
hmm, now its working fine everyway.. feel free to completely ignore 
my previous noise, and I'll just pretend it was all a bad dream
Endo
10-Jul-2010
[8471]
is there a ws:// protocol implementation for R2? How do I connect 
to a server and use websocket without a browser?
Graham
10-Jul-2010
[8472]
There isn't.
Endo
10-Jul-2010
[8473]
any plan? or is it difficult do you think?
Graham
10-Jul-2010
[8474]
http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-socket-protocol/


Doesn't look very difficult .. if you need it, start a bounty for 
it
Endo
10-Jul-2010
[8475]
thanks, I'll try.
Graham
10-Jul-2010
[8476x2]
I had a quick look at the first few pages and it seems to use framing, 
with only one frame type defined at present.
Now Ladislav is the master here having written the beer protocol 
which multiplexes different frames over tcp .. so I'm sure he could 
do this if there are any difficulties.
Endo
10-Jul-2010
[8478]
Thank you. One last question, is the latest binary version of Cheyenne 
support web sockets? or it is the svn version which supports it?
Graham
10-Jul-2010
[8479]
Dunno .. never used web sockets ... Doc??
Graham
11-Jul-2010
[8480]
What uses are people finding for web sockets?
Endo
11-Jul-2010
[8481]
Do you mean people use it for what?
Graham
11-Jul-2010
[8482x5]
Yes ..
I presume that a web socket "function" will block all of Cheyenne 
until it is completed.
Unless there's a way of handing off to one of the spare cheyenne 
processes
I presume Terry is using web sockets to communicate to cheyenne instead 
of using rsp or cgi
and cheyenne is an embedded web server
Endo
11-Jul-2010
[8487]
well, I'm planning to make an turn based online game, but not inside 
a browser, client will be a separate rebol application. it will be 
connected to a web socket, and player did somthing it will be sent 
to all other players