World: r3wp
[Linux] group for linux REBOL users
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Pekr 17-Dec-2009 [3409] | Kaj - so stop using the wrong attitude ... you just fit old R2 mental model :-) |
Kaj 17-Dec-2009 [3410x2] | Problem is, it's just complaining. You think it makes things go faster, but it doesn't |
I just analysed R3 code for you. How does that earn me an accusation of R2 mindset? | |
Pekr 17-Dec-2009 [3412] | http://www.rebol.net/wiki/REBOL_adoption#.22You_can_code_it_in_few_lines.22_attitude |
Kaj 17-Dec-2009 [3413] | Well, here's the news: by releasing host code, Carl has just extended that principle to the C code, as well |
Pekr 17-Dec-2009 [3414] | You see? I don't care. I can see it as an repetitive pattern, which is very wrong ... 80% of potential newcomers will NEVER actually care to implement anything themselves. I have seen the attitude with Gabriele, Holger, RT ... I hate it |
Kaj 17-Dec-2009 [3415] | That would be excellent, because 20% of your users contributing would be phenomenal |
Pekr 17-Dec-2009 [3416] | Not everyone can code. But I proposed bounties. I sponsored 500USD for networking protocols ... |
Kaj 17-Dec-2009 [3417] | Word just came out that even the VLC project, one ot the most popular programs ever, doesn't even have any contributors left for the Mac version |
Pekr 17-Dec-2009 [3418x2] | Yes, that is sad (VLC) |
I still think, that Amiga/MorphOS like bounties could be motivating factor for some ppl to pick-up and deliver some stuff for R3. | |
Maxim 17-Dec-2009 [3420] | pekr... one problem today is that people have come to an assumption that software programs itself. I don't know where that is coming from, but in ALL real projects... at some point, you actually do have to raise your sleeves and put a little effort into it. |
Kaj 17-Dec-2009 [3421] | We actually find it uplifting, because it means things aren't as bad as it may seem for Syllable |
Pekr 17-Dec-2009 [3422] | If 10 ppl can spend 50, it might be enough for someone to do fix here or there ... |
Kaj 17-Dec-2009 [3423] | Maxim, it's to blame on the AI mongerers who implanted that thought in the public's mind in the previous century :-) |
Pekr 17-Dec-2009 [3424] | Kaj - but the overall situation of VLC might be a bit different, no? OS-X is kind of multimedia system. It uses iTunes, Quicktime, so maybe it is not problem of VLC community itself, but maybe just on OS-X, there is not enough of users interested in VLC? |
Kaj 17-Dec-2009 [3425x2] | No, every Mac user has VLC installed |
It's just the sad state of human nature | |
Maxim 17-Dec-2009 [3427] | on mac VLC is very usefull... it plays all the stuff Apple doesn't want you to look at ;-) its actually one of the few softwares installed on my mac (I've only had to install 4 so far, 1 being a game I bought) |
Kaj 17-Dec-2009 [3428] | I'm OK with people not contributing, but then they should keep their big mouths shut |
Pekr 17-Dec-2009 [3429] | hmm, then I don't understand it ... |
Maxim 17-Dec-2009 [3430] | The sad state is also that we have this strange and powerfull urge to feed... and working on software for free... is usually done by need, or Academia, cause they can. |
Graham 17-Dec-2009 [3431] | Anyone know how to allow a windows user to deelete files off a samba share? |
Kaj 17-Dec-2009 [3432x2] | Should just work, but the permissions need to be right, both in the Samba configuration and the underlying Unix file system |
You're layering two very different permission systems over each other, and that can be hellishy difficult | |
Graham 17-Dec-2009 [3434] | I guess the issue is that the windows user is not the samba user |
Kaj 17-Dec-2009 [3435x2] | Depending on the rest of the configuration, you may have to sync those |
But the issue can be any ot a whole series | |
Graham 17-Dec-2009 [3437] | I'm logged on to the windows 2003 box as Administrator, but samba won't let me add Administrator as a samba user |
Kaj 17-Dec-2009 [3438] | I don't know the specifics of current Samba versions, but it can't be far away in the documentation |
Graham 17-Dec-2009 [3439] | I gave up .. setup ftp on the windows server and will use ftp on the linux side to send the files across as required. |
Oldes 22-Dec-2009 [3440] | Is there someone using postfix under debian? I lost my /etc/init.d/postfix script I cannot find it anywhere... without the script I cannot even reinstall postfix:/ |
Kaj 22-Dec-2009 [3441] | Can't reinstall or can't reconfigure? |
Oldes 22-Dec-2009 [3442x2] | Can't do nothing as everything stops on trying to stop the service using the script which does not exists |
also apt-get install postfix stops on trying to run the script. | |
Kaj 22-Dec-2009 [3444] | Was that the original script or did you modify it? |
Oldes 22-Dec-2009 [3445] | original |
Kaj 22-Dec-2009 [3446x4] | Then you can probably get it out of one of the original packages, such as here: |
http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/p/postfix/ | |
Interesting catch 22, by the way | |
It's the only init script in the .deb packages | |
Oldes 22-Dec-2009 [3450] | thanks.. I found it there:) |
Kaj 22-Dec-2009 [3451] | Did you manage to unpack it? |
Oldes 22-Dec-2009 [3452] | I downloaded tar.gz |
Kaj 22-Dec-2009 [3453x2] | Oh, the source. It's probably not a problem here, but it's a bit dangerous because the source file may need processing |
I just found out that the .deb distribution packages are in a weird format: ancient ar format which contains a few .tar.gz files | |
Oldes 22-Dec-2009 [3455x2] | hm... I still have problems.. the file is missing LSB information :/ |
it's probably wrong file. | |
Kaj 22-Dec-2009 [3457x2] | Try the .deb package that is closest to your Postfix version and Debian version |
Unpack it with ar similar to how tar works | |
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