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[!AltME] Discussion about AltME

Andreas
14-Feb-2012
[5462]
The mighty AltME elves work quickly!
GrahamC
16-Feb-2012
[5463x2]
Are we at risk of losing this world since Carl seems to have disappeared 
again?
Do we have a contingency plan if this world goes down?
Dockimbel
16-Feb-2012
[5465]
#rebol on freenode ;-)
GrahamC
16-Feb-2012
[5466]
No history on freenode
Gregg
16-Feb-2012
[5467]
I can look at hosting a world.
GrahamC
16-Feb-2012
[5468]
Can setup a server also on EC2
Kaj
16-Feb-2012
[5469]
Dunno if another world would help the situation any. The world name 
server is presumably also at risk
Andreas
16-Feb-2012
[5470]
That's not operated by Carl, at least, no?
GrahamC
16-Feb-2012
[5471]
Ah...I forgot that Carl runs Altme now
Kaj
16-Feb-2012
[5472]
If not Carl, then who?
GrahamC
16-Feb-2012
[5473]
Reichart used to own safeworlds.... but i thought it got taken over 
by Carl ??
Andreas
16-Feb-2012
[5474x2]
There's no additional personnel involved?
I thought the AltME core servers are still operated by a another 
entity ...
Kaj
16-Feb-2012
[5476]
The name server was supposed to be distributed over the world, but 
once when it was down it turned out that it runs on one DSL line
GrahamC
16-Feb-2012
[5477x3]
Not privy to this information so speculation
as I recall .... Reichart used to host the servers ... but that changed
So, we do have a single point of failure here...and no recovery plan
Kaj
16-Feb-2012
[5480]
Yup
Andreas
16-Feb-2012
[5481]
Are there no paying customers for AltME left?
Kaj
16-Feb-2012
[5482]
Were there ever?
GrahamC
16-Feb-2012
[5483x2]
There may well be but does that change things?
We've been bitten by closed source Rebol and we rely on closed source 
altme :(
Andreas
16-Feb-2012
[5485]
Kaj: no idea.
Kaj
16-Feb-2012
[5486]
Yup again
GrahamC
16-Feb-2012
[5487x2]
IRC lacks a good history
and threads
Andreas
16-Feb-2012
[5489]
AltME "customers" would make a difference in the kind of pressure 
exerted when the name server goes down vs when "just" the REBOL3 
world goes down.
GrahamC
16-Feb-2012
[5490]
We are paying customers for SDk ... but have no special access
Kaj
16-Feb-2012
[5491]
Do you know of anyone who has been able to pressure RT?
Andreas
16-Feb-2012
[5492x2]
Personally, no.
But I got the impression that the last R2 release (2.7.8 in Jan 2011) 
was due to such external pressure.
GrahamC
16-Feb-2012
[5494]
Yes, Jaime was able once upon a time
Kaj
16-Feb-2012
[5495]
Better call him back, then :-)
GrahamC
16-Feb-2012
[5496]
no callbacks
Andreas
16-Feb-2012
[5497]
Finding one of the supposed "source escrow" customers would also 
be a worthy thing :)
GrahamC
16-Feb-2012
[5498]
Anyone have a proposal for a backup plan ...??
Kaj
16-Feb-2012
[5499]
The option was said to be available. Doesn't mean anyone took it
GrahamC
16-Feb-2012
[5500x3]
We could ask AMD ...they used iOS at one stage
Anyway something to think about ....
Guess Qtask is an alternative but also closed source
Gregg
7-Mar-2012
[5503]
http://www.altme.com/cgi-bin/lookup.cgi?lookup=rebol4


To get the WNS to refresh, the world must be started from the GUI, 
not via the CLI.
Tomc
8-Mar-2012
[5504x3]
altme seems to be blackion out
blacking
too much wine
GiuseppeC
13-Mar-2012
[5507]
Where are you ? I have read about REBOL4 world. Who I should ask 
for an access ?
Pekr
14-Mar-2012
[5508x2]
Giuseppe - yes, we have moved, as this world went down, and was down 
fore few days, with no sign, when it will be back online ...
Today the whole altme.com DNS server went down, so all Altme worlds 
around the globe went down (not exactly like that, but close)
GiuseppeC
14-Mar-2012
[5510]
Pekr, how do I enter Rebol4 ?
Pekr
14-Mar-2012
[5511]
I asked Henrik to provide you with the account