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Maxim
7-Mar-2012
[4072]
(btw, this world is starting to be a little unstable for me)
Henrik
7-Mar-2012
[4073]
Not sure how to check the port number.
Pekr
7-Mar-2012
[4074]
netstat
Henrik
7-Mar-2012
[4075]
ok, just did, but there's nothing near port 5400.
Pekr
7-Mar-2012
[4076x3]
well, that's the command under the windows shell. What happened to 
me is, that altme.com incorrectly registered requested port numbers, 
or something like that. Simply put - two worlds tried to connect 
to the same port ...
so check if your port 5400 is not e.g. used by some zombie instance 
of an app
but that does look like some other problem, just dunno. Strange how 
all the usernames could be vanished?
Henrik
7-Mar-2012
[4079]
I don't think the port is the problem.
Pekr
7-Mar-2012
[4080]
what does your users.set contain?
Henrik
7-Mar-2012
[4081x3]
What I think it's doing is that it's reading the wrong server folder, 
possibly one that doesn't exist.
it contains all users from the Rebol4 world, like it should.
now I thought lsof would show what files it's reading, but it doesn't 
show anything.
Pekr
7-Mar-2012
[4084]
That is not imo possible, dunno ... Must be some OS-X Altme issue 
- are there filenames case sensitive? Btw - this is simply evil concept, 
I would shoot someone, who allowed that!
Henrik
7-Mar-2012
[4085]
well, the problem is exactly the same under Windows.
Pekr
7-Mar-2012
[4086]
well, but althme does not use any artificial (hidden) settings, no?
Henrik
7-Mar-2012
[4087]
I'm guessing that it tries to get the "Rebol4" name somehow to read 
the user list, but does not get anything and then quietly ignores 
it.
Pekr
7-Mar-2012
[4088x2]
How do you start your server? altme -s "rebol4" -p 5400 ?
any older altme.exe around, to try that?
Maxim
7-Mar-2012
[4090x2]
you can try this:

move (and copy) your original alme folders, clear your servers dir, 
start a brand new instance of rebol4 (using the same master passwd, 
just for now).


Use something like winmerge on the two world folders to spot the 
differences in the old and new. you *may* be able to find and swap 
some parts of the files, or just a few files which are corrupted.
winmerge does folder compares, so its very easy to track changes 
in many files at once.
Pekr
7-Mar-2012
[4092]
there's nothing to corrupt imo :-)
Maxim
7-Mar-2012
[4093]
some data has changed, or is expecting a change from what he had 
to what its now looking up.  by generating a new world, with the 
same setup, he might figure out what's wrong and patch it.
Henrik
7-Mar-2012
[4094]
Pekr, wow that worked.
Pekr
7-Mar-2012
[4095]
what have worked? :-)
Henrik
7-Mar-2012
[4096x3]
your command line thing
I'm in.
and I'm not using any world password... this is an odd design.
Pekr
7-Mar-2012
[4099x2]
I am in too ...
btw - what is world password used for anyway ... and when?
Henrik
7-Mar-2012
[4101]
it's used to look up the world name from AltME.
Pekr
7-Mar-2012
[4102]
you can login as a Master, but a world password? What is it for? 
Isn't it good for to only auto-setup a Master account, which will 
be given a world password?
Henrik
7-Mar-2012
[4103]
so you specify it once, when creating a new world and there is no 
way to change it, which is a problem.
Maxim
7-Mar-2012
[4104]
probably until it expires automatically, which is 5 days IIRC for 
free worlds.
Gregg
7-Mar-2012
[4105]
I am back in, too.
Pekr
7-Mar-2012
[4106]
Yes, I know the form requests it ... do you think it is stored, and 
then used to register with altme.com?
Henrik
7-Mar-2012
[4107x3]
it's odd because I need to use the password, when starting it from 
the AltME GUI, but I don't need it, when starting from CLI.
Gregg, maybe we can perform the transfer anyway.
The CLI way should also work in Windows, right?
Gregg
7-Mar-2012
[4110]
Yes, though there are glitches on alt ports, so we will have to see. 
I have two worlds on the VM now (5400 and 5401), so we would know 
right away if it works on 5402.
Henrik
7-Mar-2012
[4111x2]
ok, I'm going to close the Rebol4 world again, and you try to start 
it in a second.
done
Gregg
7-Mar-2012
[4113]
Started, but not able to connect here.
Henrik
7-Mar-2012
[4114x2]
What does your user list show?
it should show 98 users, 0 active.
Gregg
7-Mar-2012
[4116]
It does.
Henrik
7-Mar-2012
[4117]
ok, good, then there is a firewall or routing problem.
Pekr
7-Mar-2012
[4118]
Gregg - not sure it will work on 5402, unless it registers itself 
on altme.com that way?
Maxim
7-Mar-2012
[4119]
pekr, when you start the server, you effectively transmit that info 
to the altme world name server.
Pekr
7-Mar-2012
[4120]
in worst case, we would have to wait 5-10 days for the timeout. But 
maybe, when starting a server, it will re-register the requested 
port, dunno ...
Maxim
7-Mar-2012
[4121]
that is primarily why the world name server exists AFAIK.