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Henrik 7-Mar-2012 [4067] | but going to purge all altme processes from the macbook and try again. |
Pekr 7-Mar-2012 [4068x2] | The world "Rebol4" at 78.156.98.239 port 5400 is reachable. Your users should be able to connect to it. |
Are you expecting it on port 5400? | |
Henrik 7-Mar-2012 [4070] | something occurred to me: Between world restarts, altme upgraded itself from 1.2.21 to 1.2.25. |
Maxim 7-Mar-2012 [4071x2] | on windows, the latest version is 1.2.26. |
(btw, this world is starting to be a little unstable for me) | |
Henrik 7-Mar-2012 [4073] | Not sure how to check the port number. |
Pekr 7-Mar-2012 [4074] | netstat |
Henrik 7-Mar-2012 [4075] | ok, just did, but there's nothing near port 5400. |
Pekr 7-Mar-2012 [4076x3] | well, that's the command under the windows shell. What happened to me is, that altme.com incorrectly registered requested port numbers, or something like that. Simply put - two worlds tried to connect to the same port ... |
so check if your port 5400 is not e.g. used by some zombie instance of an app | |
but that does look like some other problem, just dunno. Strange how all the usernames could be vanished? | |
Henrik 7-Mar-2012 [4079] | I don't think the port is the problem. |
Pekr 7-Mar-2012 [4080] | what does your users.set contain? |
Henrik 7-Mar-2012 [4081x3] | What I think it's doing is that it's reading the wrong server folder, possibly one that doesn't exist. |
it contains all users from the Rebol4 world, like it should. | |
now I thought lsof would show what files it's reading, but it doesn't show anything. | |
Pekr 7-Mar-2012 [4084] | That is not imo possible, dunno ... Must be some OS-X Altme issue - are there filenames case sensitive? Btw - this is simply evil concept, I would shoot someone, who allowed that! |
Henrik 7-Mar-2012 [4085] | well, the problem is exactly the same under Windows. |
Pekr 7-Mar-2012 [4086] | well, but althme does not use any artificial (hidden) settings, no? |
Henrik 7-Mar-2012 [4087] | I'm guessing that it tries to get the "Rebol4" name somehow to read the user list, but does not get anything and then quietly ignores it. |
Pekr 7-Mar-2012 [4088x2] | How do you start your server? altme -s "rebol4" -p 5400 ? |
any older altme.exe around, to try that? | |
Maxim 7-Mar-2012 [4090x2] | you can try this: move (and copy) your original alme folders, clear your servers dir, start a brand new instance of rebol4 (using the same master passwd, just for now). Use something like winmerge on the two world folders to spot the differences in the old and new. you *may* be able to find and swap some parts of the files, or just a few files which are corrupted. |
winmerge does folder compares, so its very easy to track changes in many files at once. | |
Pekr 7-Mar-2012 [4092] | there's nothing to corrupt imo :-) |
Maxim 7-Mar-2012 [4093] | some data has changed, or is expecting a change from what he had to what its now looking up. by generating a new world, with the same setup, he might figure out what's wrong and patch it. |
Henrik 7-Mar-2012 [4094] | Pekr, wow that worked. |
Pekr 7-Mar-2012 [4095] | what have worked? :-) |
Henrik 7-Mar-2012 [4096x3] | your command line thing |
I'm in. | |
and I'm not using any world password... this is an odd design. | |
Pekr 7-Mar-2012 [4099x2] | I am in too ... |
btw - what is world password used for anyway ... and when? | |
Henrik 7-Mar-2012 [4101] | it's used to look up the world name from AltME. |
Pekr 7-Mar-2012 [4102] | you can login as a Master, but a world password? What is it for? Isn't it good for to only auto-setup a Master account, which will be given a world password? |
Henrik 7-Mar-2012 [4103] | so you specify it once, when creating a new world and there is no way to change it, which is a problem. |
Maxim 7-Mar-2012 [4104] | probably until it expires automatically, which is 5 days IIRC for free worlds. |
Gregg 7-Mar-2012 [4105] | I am back in, too. |
Pekr 7-Mar-2012 [4106] | Yes, I know the form requests it ... do you think it is stored, and then used to register with altme.com? |
Henrik 7-Mar-2012 [4107x3] | it's odd because I need to use the password, when starting it from the AltME GUI, but I don't need it, when starting from CLI. |
Gregg, maybe we can perform the transfer anyway. | |
The CLI way should also work in Windows, right? | |
Gregg 7-Mar-2012 [4110] | Yes, though there are glitches on alt ports, so we will have to see. I have two worlds on the VM now (5400 and 5401), so we would know right away if it works on 5402. |
Henrik 7-Mar-2012 [4111x2] | ok, I'm going to close the Rebol4 world again, and you try to start it in a second. |
done | |
Gregg 7-Mar-2012 [4113] | Started, but not able to connect here. |
Henrik 7-Mar-2012 [4114x2] | What does your user list show? |
it should show 98 users, 0 active. | |
Gregg 7-Mar-2012 [4116] | It does. |
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