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Henrik
7-Mar-2012
[4053]
The inconsistency that may be causing the problem is a partial case 
sensitivity. It screws up something somewhere.
Maxim
7-Mar-2012
[4054]
the world name in my altme files folders are all lower-case.  so 
I guess that is how it generates them, to be sure they are transparent 
on POSIX filestores which are case-sensitive.
Henrik
7-Mar-2012
[4055x4]
ok, the world is not accessible, because I tried to start it from 
windows and my router is set to my macbook. moving it back again...
started again
I'm guessing the world name is stored somewhere inside the server 
folder's "rebol4" file.
file = folder.
Pekr
7-Mar-2012
[4059x3]
my world name says REBOL4, all capitals
hmm, wrong password too ...
btw - check your processes. What in fact is screwed, is bug in world 
serving!
Gregg
7-Mar-2012
[4062]
I can connect again, but invalid password.
Pekr
7-Mar-2012
[4063]
if you serve more than one world, there are cases, when altme.com 
sends to to incorrect ports ....
Henrik
7-Mar-2012
[4064]
yes, so that part works as expected.
Pekr
7-Mar-2012
[4065]
aren't you running more than one world?
Henrik
7-Mar-2012
[4066x2]
nope, just this one.
but going to purge all altme processes from the macbook and try again.
Pekr
7-Mar-2012
[4068x2]
The world "Rebol4" at 78.156.98.239 port 5400 is reachable.

Your users should be able to connect to it.
Are you expecting it on port 5400?
Henrik
7-Mar-2012
[4070]
something occurred to me: Between world restarts, altme upgraded 
itself from 1.2.21 to 1.2.25.
Maxim
7-Mar-2012
[4071x2]
on windows, the latest version is 1.2.26.
(btw, this world is starting to be a little unstable for me)
Henrik
7-Mar-2012
[4073]
Not sure how to check the port number.
Pekr
7-Mar-2012
[4074]
netstat
Henrik
7-Mar-2012
[4075]
ok, just did, but there's nothing near port 5400.
Pekr
7-Mar-2012
[4076x3]
well, that's the command under the windows shell. What happened to 
me is, that altme.com incorrectly registered requested port numbers, 
or something like that. Simply put - two worlds tried to connect 
to the same port ...
so check if your port 5400 is not e.g. used by some zombie instance 
of an app
but that does look like some other problem, just dunno. Strange how 
all the usernames could be vanished?
Henrik
7-Mar-2012
[4079]
I don't think the port is the problem.
Pekr
7-Mar-2012
[4080]
what does your users.set contain?
Henrik
7-Mar-2012
[4081x3]
What I think it's doing is that it's reading the wrong server folder, 
possibly one that doesn't exist.
it contains all users from the Rebol4 world, like it should.
now I thought lsof would show what files it's reading, but it doesn't 
show anything.
Pekr
7-Mar-2012
[4084]
That is not imo possible, dunno ... Must be some OS-X Altme issue 
- are there filenames case sensitive? Btw - this is simply evil concept, 
I would shoot someone, who allowed that!
Henrik
7-Mar-2012
[4085]
well, the problem is exactly the same under Windows.
Pekr
7-Mar-2012
[4086]
well, but althme does not use any artificial (hidden) settings, no?
Henrik
7-Mar-2012
[4087]
I'm guessing that it tries to get the "Rebol4" name somehow to read 
the user list, but does not get anything and then quietly ignores 
it.
Pekr
7-Mar-2012
[4088x2]
How do you start your server? altme -s "rebol4" -p 5400 ?
any older altme.exe around, to try that?
Maxim
7-Mar-2012
[4090x2]
you can try this:

move (and copy) your original alme folders, clear your servers dir, 
start a brand new instance of rebol4 (using the same master passwd, 
just for now).


Use something like winmerge on the two world folders to spot the 
differences in the old and new. you *may* be able to find and swap 
some parts of the files, or just a few files which are corrupted.
winmerge does folder compares, so its very easy to track changes 
in many files at once.
Pekr
7-Mar-2012
[4092]
there's nothing to corrupt imo :-)
Maxim
7-Mar-2012
[4093]
some data has changed, or is expecting a change from what he had 
to what its now looking up.  by generating a new world, with the 
same setup, he might figure out what's wrong and patch it.
Henrik
7-Mar-2012
[4094]
Pekr, wow that worked.
Pekr
7-Mar-2012
[4095]
what have worked? :-)
Henrik
7-Mar-2012
[4096x3]
your command line thing
I'm in.
and I'm not using any world password... this is an odd design.
Pekr
7-Mar-2012
[4099x2]
I am in too ...
btw - what is world password used for anyway ... and when?
Henrik
7-Mar-2012
[4101]
it's used to look up the world name from AltME.
Pekr
7-Mar-2012
[4102]
you can login as a Master, but a world password? What is it for? 
Isn't it good for to only auto-setup a Master account, which will 
be given a world password?