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[#Red] Red language group

Arnold
21-Jul-2013
[9590]
directories under red.esperconsultancy.nl are according to the script 
download.r:

test common C-library cURL ZeroMQ-binding REBOL-3 Java SQLite SDL 
OpenGL GLib GTK GTK-WebKit OSM-GPS-Map GTK-Champlain 6502

I copied my list from my browser address field history. Should have 
noticed GLib (first I had tried GLIB and found nothing) was the one 
you asked for.
Kaj
21-Jul-2013
[9591x4]
People, no need to do all that manually. Just run the download.r 
with Fossil installed
Also, there are already single binaries with all my bindings included 
for the Red interpreter console:
http://red.esperconsultancy.nl/Red-test/dir?ci=tip
Well, most bindings. WebKit and such are too non-standard to include
Pekr
23-Jul-2013
[9595]
Kaj, I already several times tried to look for something, not being 
succesfull. I always need to look up for certain link. Why your main 
domain - http://red.esperconsultancy.nl/, displays just "not found"? 
Imo there should be some central page, displaying the list of your 
projects .... would really simplify the move between fossil mess 
...
Arnold
23-Jul-2013
[9596x5]
I managed to get the fossildownload from the download.r script running, 
unfortunately everything ended in the downloads folder where the 
script was still placed. I reran the script from the folder I wanted 
the repositories to land. I copied the terminal information output 
to a text document for there are several passwords created for the 
repos and I had not yet time to store them properly..
No I have all the files from the Red.esperconsultancy.nl site complete 
locally.
No need to look the links up over and over again.
The domain is owned by Bas. Think it is company policy. To keep the 
links from search engines etc.
Whenever asked for the correct link, Kaj provides it. Or a volunteer 
like me posts a reminder. :-)
Pekr
23-Jul-2013
[9601]
How does anyone know, there is a download script?
Arnold
23-Jul-2013
[9602]
You follow the news here do you? It has been mentioned several times. 
I look up the time of the post.
Pekr
23-Jul-2013
[9603]
It is that ppl outside of here can't know ... Well, many ppl will 
go via offical website and its contributions section. Maybe the script 
could be mentioned there, dunno. OTOH most of the bindings are listed 
there, so maybe there's no need to do so ...
Arnold
23-Jul-2013
[9604x3]
Ok Pekr look back between Sun 10:52 PM by Doc and Mon 12:26 AM by 
Kaj
Not only a link but also a short help doc howto would be welcome.
I want to dedicate a video to it in the near future.
Kaj
23-Jul-2013
[9607x2]
Petr, I've published the existence of the download script here many, 
many times
I've also explained a number of times that I will make a central 
website for Red, but that I have been too busy so far with doing 
actual Red work
Oldes
23-Jul-2013
[9609]
the download script has one big issue - it requires to install Fossil.
Kaj
23-Jul-2013
[9610x3]
In the meantime, you have websites for each project
Oldes, if you consider that a big issue, there's not much I can do 
about it right now. In my view, it's a small requirement
You also have to install REBOL for it. Do you also find that a big 
issue?
Oldes
23-Jul-2013
[9613]
I believe it would not be difficult to write a script, which would 
download your sources without Fossil, but it's not my priority... 
just wanted to note, that there are people who don't want to install 
Fossil.
Kaj
23-Jul-2013
[9614]
I know that. And they should know that I have no time to cater for 
them now
Oldes
23-Jul-2013
[9615]
I don't need to install REBOL, I'm using REBOL many years already 
and for many purposes every day, I'm sure I would not use Fossil 
for anything else than just download your scripts.
Kaj
23-Jul-2013
[9616x3]
If you want to contribute a download script without Fossil, please 
do
Aha, I already have Fossil installed and use it for many purposes. 
So the Fossil dependency is very much like the REBOL dependency
I also want to get rid of the REBOL dependency, because there are 
new Red users who don't have REBOL installed. Same thing, but currently 
I have to use REBOL for the script
Oldes
23-Jul-2013
[9619]
I know, but you are the only one I know. I was already thinking if 
you would have a problem if someone would mirror your files on Github, 
wouldn't you?
Kaj
23-Jul-2013
[9620x2]
I wouldn't like it, but I open-sourced it, so you're free to do that
How many people do you know who use Red? Do you also think that's 
a reason to reject it?
Oldes
23-Jul-2013
[9622]
Take it easy, I have no problem with your Fossil usage.. I just wanted 
to tell you, that someone else may find it not so friendly. Off topic 
btw.
Kaj
23-Jul-2013
[9623x2]
I wish it would be enough to state my position once. I know how others 
think about it. I'm making improvements all the time, but I haven't 
had time for a central website yet. Is that so hard to accept?
Half a year ago people complained about the Fossil websites, so I 
developed the download script for them. That will have to do for 
now. I'm sure that when I make the website, people will want something 
else again
Rebolek
23-Jul-2013
[9625]
I think that people will stop complaining when everything Fossil-related 
is gone (extremly confusing website, dependency, ...).
Kaj
23-Jul-2013
[9626x2]
Exactly, and that's not going to happen. I develop in Fossil, so 
that's the source of things
If you can't stand that, then don't go to the source
Oldes
23-Jul-2013
[9628]
Here is a starter: https://raw.github.com/Oldes/rs/master/projects/kaj-fossil-download/latest/kaj-fossil-download.r
Bo
23-Jul-2013
[9629]
I agree.  If someone has a favorite or preferred tool and I want 
to access that person's work, I will learn the tool instead of making 
the person change.
Kaj
23-Jul-2013
[9630]
Cool, thanks! But you need GitHub for that ;-)
Bo
23-Jul-2013
[9631]
(Although, it would be nice to have an index page...but not necessary.)
Kaj
23-Jul-2013
[9632x2]
The central website is planned to become the index page. Until then, 
the index is in the download.r
Oldes, I'm interested in the psychology of this. Why would you rather 
write a script for which you need deep Fossil knowledge, than download 
one Fossil executable file?
Gregg
23-Jul-2013
[9634x2]
Do we have a Fossil group? If not, we should, so this knowledge and 
chat doesn't get lost.
I know Kaj has posted thing a number of times, and I hate to make 
him repeat himself.
Kaj
23-Jul-2013
[9636]
Yes, that would help
Oldes
24-Jul-2013
[9637x2]
I need Github for what? I just used Github to share the script with 
other people who could use it. It's just a script made in a hurry, 
nothing special, I'm using many such a scripts :)
And why I make a script instead of installing Fossil? Because I like 
to write such a "data mining" scripts.. It's something like for someone 
else solving sudoku, for example.
Kaj
24-Jul-2013
[9639]
OK, I can understand that. I have a hard time understanding such 
things from an efficiency standpoint. I'm always forced to be as 
efficient as I can, because I am doing so many projects