World: r4wp

Pekr, unless this is a huge rehash that you don't want to repeat, 
could you let me know which View engine proposal you're talking about? 
I don't do GUI stuff so it's been a while since I caught up with 
current events. In the !R3-GUI group if that's appropriate.

Haven't you seen Google Cyphre's post?

We have 3 Brians I know of so far with different strengths. More 
would be welcome, of course :)

No, I haven't been following it. I haven't been in any Google groups 
in months.

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rebol/6MMlv-E3j-E

well, IIRC Ladislav (or maybe someone other) posted the link few 
days ago here ....

Ah, I was busy with other stuff then.

OK, so it's the R3 gob model with pluggable backend engines. Looks 
good to me.

Yes, looks really good ....

That's great Gregg, thanks!

Kaj: it works now from command-line on Win7 and an icon for an hidden 
window appears in the task bar.

Donated 15 EUR to Red.

Great, thanks Arnold!

Thanks, Doc. After fighting for a day and a night with the XP machine 
to keep it from self-destructing, I could test that audio playing 
also works on XP now - but no task bar icon...

I also confirmed Gregg's report that 0MQ works on XP; simply the 
one in my test repository

Apparently localhost networking doesn't work at all on XP if no real 
network card is installed

IIRC you can install the virtual loopback adapter in order to allow 
tcp on a card-less machine on XP.

Thanks, good to know

Kaj, just a note to say I appreciate you always including reminders 
about where things are. I'm spread so thin these days that I easily 
lose track of old messages pointing to sources.

Thanks. I have to, because people keep complaining they don't know 
where things are :-/

Thank you Petr!

Thanks Petr. Doc will tell me how much I owe him at the end of the 
month. :-)

Thank you Ladislav.

Go Kaj Go! The order of eval buttons confused me, as I haven't been 
on there in a while. Compare is great. That's what we need on a large 
scale.

I've reordered it a bit in the modernisation, but if you hadn't been 
there for a while, it should be fresh :-)

:-) I just expected all the DO buttons to be together, with help 
stuff on the right.

But that is such a minor nit to pick, that you should ignore it and 
just hear the part where I say "Go Kaj Go!". :-)

No, you're right, it will be moved more. I left the help functions 
closest to the R3 button, because Red doesn't have those functions 
for now. I'll move them when Red gets them

On the other hand, the main Do button has always been first, on its 
own

Ah, now that I click them--and remember--I get it. My gut said that 
Available Words would give me a matrix with the languages at the 
top and a list of words available in each.

e.g. col 1 would be a union of all available words, and each row 
would have a check if lang-x supports it.

That would be very hard to accomplish, over all the different languages

Well, I thought if anyone could do it... :-)

I'll be pleased when we get it just for Red

Just need a masert WORDS-OF reflector for each language. :-)

masert = master

My objective is to move forward and spend as little effort as possible 
to be able to fight another day. So I must try to ignore the legacy 
languages as much as possible

Understood. Keep fighting.

Will do

Well worth the wait. Excellent work Doc & contributors!!

Thanks Arnold!

Doc, you're doing something very important.  Please keep up the great 
work!

Thanks Nick. The good thing is that I'm not alone on this journey. 
:-)

This is fantastic Doc. I know it's still very early days, but you 
are making great progress and it's very exciting to see it come to 
life. When I copied the commands from the new blog entry, to build 
the console, and it worked the first time, perfectly, it made my 
day. Then, even doing just simple things in the console was fun.

Of course, then I tried pasting the routine example from the blog, 
which didn't work. :-)

The most painful part of the whole thing? GitHub/Win.

Routine are basically Red/System code which require a compilation 
step, so it can't run as-is in the interpreter.

But if you define a routine in a Red script, and then DO it, it will 
work. You can also build a custom console by writing a Red script 
and adding at the end an %include %<path-to>/console.red.

Yes, I will read more carefully. Just too excited. :-)

if you define a routine in a Red script, and then DO it, it will 
work.
 => the script needs to be compiled for that to work.