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[DevCon2007] DevCon 2007

Robert
11-May-2007
[1951]
Do they have graph-layout included?
Henrik
11-May-2007
[1952]
it sounds very much like my RE, except my RE does not have that ability 
to move around freely in the structure, and you have to cross relate 
manually. no "traversing" back and forth. you can't start in the 
"middle" of the tree.
Maxim
11-May-2007
[1953x2]
not sure, but they work at a much higher level, they can aggregate 
contexts and relationship set based on multi-dimensional.
henrik, nope, the concept of contexts is paramount.  you are working 
in one dimension, relavance has n dimensions.
[unknown: 10]
11-May-2007
[1955x2]
pfiew...
Ron did his home work ...
Pekr
11-May-2007
[1957]
What is that good for practically? Is there any commercial app using 
that aproach? Or is that only academic thingy? :-)
Maxim
11-May-2007
[1958]
14 years of development.
[unknown: 10]
11-May-2007
[1959x2]
what...!
great!
Robert
11-May-2007
[1961]
n Dimension = n entry / output edges
Maxim
11-May-2007
[1962x3]
didn't you hear him ... he talked about that "small gang" at DARPA 
with
no, its n sets of edges.
input/output is one dimension.  its a relationship of dependency.
Robert
11-May-2007
[1965]
Well, than you have clustered your edges to a grouping node...
Maxim
11-May-2007
[1966x4]
actually its "requirement"
free your mind of a graph... each node as multiple sets of edges.
and you can operate based on what those sets mean to each other.
(something like that)
[unknown: 10]
11-May-2007
[1970]
haha..he's funny..
Henrik
11-May-2007
[1971]
well, I guess 14 years beats my 2-3 weeks of development
Maxim
11-May-2007
[1972]
lol
[unknown: 10]
11-May-2007
[1973]
Where is this actualy used this is complex...
Maxim
11-May-2007
[1974]
its actually VERY simple... just like REBOL.  its so simple it makes 
your head hurt in the begining.
Gabriele
11-May-2007
[1975]
here petr, apps
[unknown: 10]
11-May-2007
[1976]
Mmmmm so a live-backup of this should be a pace of cake related to 
the flexibilty...
Pekr
11-May-2007
[1977]
What relation does it have to Rebol? Is he using Rebol anywhere?
Maxim
11-May-2007
[1978x2]
are you seeing how complex the problems he is mapping? trying to 
map this into databases, means queries which scrub piles of data, 
in relavance, there no "scrubing"
if you define enough relations and contexts, you have access to all 
data immediately.
[unknown: 10]
11-May-2007
[1980]
fantastic !
Dockimbel
11-May-2007
[1981]
No yet, the idea is to try to see how Revalance and REBOL can fit 
together
Maxim
11-May-2007
[1982]
and it can index 128 bits of things.
Pekr
11-May-2007
[1983]
This guy comes from other planet .... (of data relation knowledge 
:-)
Anton
11-May-2007
[1984]
shelter

 - if he does not talk about it, I would ask him about security. Separate 
 traditional databases implies a certain amount of security, by isolation. 
 A single database with "everything your organisation knows" in it 
 must have lines of control. I suppose the security  controls is just 
 a concept which is associated like anything else... but would like 
 to know his explanation.
Gabriele
11-May-2007
[1985]
petr, do you remember Carl's blog about this tech?
[unknown: 10]
11-May-2007
[1986]
he's good..
Maxim
11-May-2007
[1987]
his query language is almost directly loadable by rebol... !
Pekr
11-May-2007
[1988x2]
I wonder if he knows Sentences :-)
Gabriele - no ....
Dockimbel
11-May-2007
[1990]
in fact, 128bits means 128 dimension (if i understood correctly)
Maxim
11-May-2007
[1991]
you should see Carl and Ron talk... it gets brain splits.
[unknown: 10]
11-May-2007
[1992]
ahhahaha
Anton
11-May-2007
[1993]
No, 4 x 32bits = 4 dimensions, I think.
Pekr
11-May-2007
[1994]
Well, they should form some venture and use the thing for some Artificial 
Intelligence things. You remember Carl studies brain and how it behaves 
(neurons) :-)
[unknown: 10]
11-May-2007
[1995]
man this is so well thought thru ist actualy bridging the problem 
to simplicity...
Maxim
11-May-2007
[1996]
they get into defining how quantum mechanics, fit into rebol and 
relavance... so they both are complementary  :-D
Anton
11-May-2007
[1997]
each dimension has 32bit range of possible unique items. (the length 
of the dimension)
Maxim
11-May-2007
[1998x2]
not quite, that is the physical structure dimension.
the actual number of nodes which can be identified.
[unknown: 10]
11-May-2007
[2000]
hahaha