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Pekr
12-May-2009
[14135]
BrianH: maybe Carl here is visiting using new R3 based Altme GUI 
client? :-)
BrianH
12-May-2009
[14136]
I'm seconding your request :)
Carl
12-May-2009
[14137]
Will do.
Maarten
12-May-2009
[14138x2]
I recently skimmed over a *new* implementation of multiprocessing 
in Python 2.6 and 3.0. Really new. Great model - it could be how 
tasks work in R3
http://docs.python.org/library/multiprocessing.html
Sunanda
13-May-2009
[14140]
Henrik:<I can only emphasize the importance of submitting Curecode 
reports.>


If you look at some very recent bug reports (numbers 700 -- 799), 
over half of them have been resolved, often within days
    46 built and/or tested (ie fixed) 
     8 dismissed (not actual bugs)

There seems no better time to report R3 problems than now!


The rest are Reviewed, Deferred or Waiting.....So still on the action 
list.
Maxim
14-May-2009
[14141]
what happened with ordinal accessors in R3, what replaces them?
Pekr
14-May-2009
[14142]
There seems to be bunch of fixes for A54 coming. I really like the 
progress of last few months. While there is still lot's of work, 
some areas are getting fixed and being really usable ....
Sunanda
14-May-2009
[14143]
ordinal accessors still exist in R3:
    fifth [1 2 3 4 5]
    == 5

(There's a discussion in Core about them no longer working with money!. 
But that's the only case I know)
Henrik
14-May-2009
[14144]
wow, 23 fixes so far for A54, including some of my old image bugs.
BrianH
14-May-2009
[14145x2]
Ordinals still exist, but are no longer used as reflective accessors. 
Try HELP "-of".
Most of those are replacements for FIRST, SECOND or THIRD for objects, 
fuunctions and such.
Maxim
14-May-2009
[14147]
thnx brian
Steeve
14-May-2009
[14148x3]
Geez, who is Meijeru ?
That guys post tickets related to bugs on ports which are not.
And Carl seems trust him, My...
People who are not member here, should not be allowed to post tickets.

Because when they have wrong understanding, we can't change their 
mind easly
Pekr
14-May-2009
[14151]
I was exacty wondering the same. IMO there shoud be Carl, and few 
other moderators, as BrianH, Steeve, Ladislav ....
Steeve
14-May-2009
[14152]
There are moderators actually, but i don't understand why they don't 
discard these tickets.
Pekr
14-May-2009
[14153]
new blog posted regarding currency designator ...
Steeve
14-May-2009
[14154x2]
My... who need that know ?

Vectors implementation is not finished, like other things started 
previously.
*now not know
Maxim
14-May-2009
[14156]
what's the url for r3 curecode again?
Steeve
14-May-2009
[14157]
http://curecode.org/rebol3/view-tickets.rsp
Maxim
14-May-2009
[14158]
thx
Pekr
14-May-2009
[14159]
I hate money datatype - the most useless datatype ever. Pity something 
like BCD is represented by such stupid name - money!
Rebolek
14-May-2009
[14160]
no one foces you to use it
Maxim
14-May-2009
[14161]
there there pekr... dont start down that negativity path... we all 
like the new and happy pekr   ;-)
Pekr
14-May-2009
[14162x3]
I want separate BCD! type.
or float! vs decimal!
having money descriptor is of no value for general math. It does 
not do any conversions either, so there is imo very little value 
in money! (datatype :-) - just a cosmetic visual representation
Maxim
14-May-2009
[14165]
yes... decimal! should be BCD and we should have a new float! type 
which equates to current decimal


if no current R2 is going to be compatible anyways... I think this 
is a good time to fix this issue once and for all... its always been 
an issue, since core 1
Geomol
14-May-2009
[14166]
Maybe if you develop banking or other financial applications, money 
datatype could be very nice thing!? Some things are not useful for 
all of us, but very useful for a few of us. (I haven't used money 
datatype myself.)
Maxim
14-May-2009
[14167x2]
pekr, have you argued with Carl over this?
if the issue is code maintenance, I think its not a good reason not 
to fix this.
Henrik
14-May-2009
[14169]
I haven't used it, since the readability of the currency string is 
not good. However if you drop the datatype, parsing dialects with 
money as numbers would be a little harder.
Maxim
14-May-2009
[14170x2]
money is usefull, just that it doesn't replace a real BCD type.
which decimal! should be IMHO
Steeve
14-May-2009
[14172]
I posted a comment with an idea, but i'm afraid there would be too 
much drawbacks in the core. It's hopeless...
Sunanda
14-May-2009
[14173]
Steeve: <Geez, who is Meijeru ?>

Someone who posts the bugs he finds ..... And gets them attended 
to.
Not someone who thinks bug posting is ineffective :-)
Steeve
14-May-2009
[14174]
oh so mean... i post bugs too
Pekr
14-May-2009
[14175]
Sunanda - let's be sure, that he is not as "useful" as Dr. Bacon 
on wiki - while he reorganised it, he also completly ruined what 
was already avaiable ...
Steeve
14-May-2009
[14176]
Excellent ! 
Sunanada, see the results i got when i post some tickets 
http://curecode.org/rebol3/ticket.rsp?id=793&cursor=20


Instead of correcting the bugs, Carl shoose to discard the features 
i use.
T_T
Maxim
14-May-2009
[14177]
that was a strange reaction on Carl's part, but I think its consistent 
with how R3 is being developped.... do not let incomplete features 
creep in releases.
Steeve
14-May-2009
[14178]
but it will never come back... T_T
Maxim
14-May-2009
[14179x2]
R2 "incompleteness" in one of the major reasons why many initially 
love the language, but after they try to build a "serious" app, they 
discover that some things need to be fixed.
he actually said something much better... "we need to add native 
image manipulation functions"   :-)
Sunanda
14-May-2009
[14181]
I've also seen useful bits of R2 (in my opinion) be discarded as 
part of the R3 vision.
These things happen :-)
Maxim
14-May-2009
[14182]
for me, R3 is a real attempt at delivering a finished product.  probably 
the first time since rebol's creation.
Steeve
14-May-2009
[14183]
i made a script with R3 which vectorizes simple images (initialyy 
to build vectorial fonts usable with the draw dialect) 

I used a lot bitwise operators like OR and XOR on that images as 
a prefiltering process.
I can put in the te trash my work now.
Maxim
14-May-2009
[14184]
you can talk to carl about the fact that you need them, in r3 chat. 
 I'm there yet but if you explain that you're doing worthwhile stuff, 
he might just  put them back... until the better funcs are put in 
place...