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and please - don't compare mac-mini with barebones - they are full 
featured multimedia stations, including ability to be server by remote 
control only, via display .... look at Shuttle or MSI ones ...

well - I have never used OS-X, but I am not scared - but - I need 
modern codecs - divx, xvid in codeck-pack or ffdshow, bsplayer ... 
just give me those sw on OS-x

and give me rebol/view there ;-)

I also fear - touching OS-X, as good unix based derivative, would 
mean no way back for me to crappy Windows, where still inserting 
the floppy may mean your OS is gonna block for few secs ;-)

modern PCs shouldn't need floppy

but the same thing happens with cdrom access :(

exactly, that was my point ...

Pekr. You are missing a lot, and Btw All the multimedia stuff you 
mention is already running in OSX.

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pekr, of course all these things are already available for OSX and 
have been for a long time. One thing that kind of surprised me is 
how many apps surpass Windows equivalents in quality, simply because 
the underlying foundation with Cocoa is incredibly strong. You can 
tap into a lot of amazing functions and the OS itself can do things 
where Windows would need third party software to do the same.

For example, look at Jaime's presentation from the REBOL conference. 
It was done in Keynote which is a presentation program made by Apple 
which makes Powerpoint look like a silly joke. It uses full 3D hardware 
acceleration and can apply pixel shader effects to the presentation 
through Core Image. By having a very strong set of video functions 
as well, presentations can be exported to a lot of different videoformats 
from DV to H264 or MPEG4, etc. in any size or framerate. You can 
also convert parts of it to a PDF document or a bitmap image. All 
this is possible, because OSX does this in Cocoa and is available 
at the developer's fingertips. This is also what made apps like iMovie 
possible, because they integrate into OSX.


Often the wrong question to ask is "Does program X exist for OSX?", 
because the programs are different and often of much higher quality. 
A lot of programs don't even have Windows equivalents. The community 
reminds me a bit of what bedroom programmers did during the old days 
of the Amiga, when they used the hardware and made beautiful demos. 
There are a lot of small, free apps available that do 2-3 things.

I've also just rebooted my Mini with a 72 day uptime to install the 
latest update. It's an amazing little brick!

http://www.engadget.com/2006/01/11/creative-labs-pc-less-skype-internet-phoneplus/

Ah! Great news Reichart. This is what we are after. :)

Getting closer, I want wireless like a cell phone with headset though...I 
will keep looking.

what do you mean? you can have headset with each blue-tooth supporting 
cell phones today ... but you probably mean something different?

He wants the inexpensive services of Skype and the convenience of 
Wireless, and so do I.

hmm, wireless ip telephony?

there is usb blue-tooth stick which will catch your signal to 100m 
distance, but that is just for the headset and you have to have your 
pc running ....

BT sucks!

Exactly. There are WiFi VoIP phones already, but not WiFi Skype phones.

pda or smartphone with bt or wifi then?

then go with pda and install one, no?

Yeah, just give me a simple 802.11 box with a simple UI and a headset 
jack, that is all.  Make the software programmable even, so people 
can make it Skype (or what ever).  This would be the best selling 
hardware design, and open one.

Reichart - the support in Windows sucks :-) For short connections 
bt is ok - I use it every day in my car, as police already caught 
me on phone during my drive and I paid for that :-)

But you have the overhead price of a PDA, so we are talking 300 + 
just for 40 worth of hardware.

there is plenty of pdas out there, or smart phones, supporting wi-fi, 
no? should be fast enough to install skype and transfer it to your 
home network ...

yes, now I understand ... no easy solution then ...

BT Sucks! ................ I'm sticking with this statement, it has 
nothing to do with Windows.  I have a good friend who is THE GUY 
who writes al the BT drivers for HP.  After sitting with him for 
2 hours working through exactly how BT was designed, and alll the 
problems, there is only one statement.... BT Sucks!

I wonder why Skype themselves don't initiate such development ...

bt is in 1.1 or 2.0 version already? I wonder if they did not corrected 
their problems? by the way - no matter how it sucks, it will win 
for short distances ... it consumes 1/10 of wi-fi ... although there 
is one some low power wi-fi chipset, but dunno details ...

I also have bought now over 500 worth of BT Crap.  BT Mouse 500, 
BT Mouse from Microsoft, BT card for portables, BT headset from Jabber, 
Bt headset from Motorolla, BT PDA from Treo-Palm.  Every bit of it.................SUCKED! 
 I got rid of everything except the BT Headset and the Treo, and 
they are both going soon as well.

I won't say it will win, but I will agree we stuck with it for a 
while.

usb design sucks even more :-) compared to firewire at least, which 
allows various devices to talk together. But usb won big time. usb 
was saven only because faster version appeared ...

It will get better too, but it is bad from the foundation. I won't 
play the "what tech sucks more game" we will both win, and therefore 
both lose : )

YEs, USB pisses me off  big time.

I just wanted to say, that no matter what we think or how right we 
are, bt is gonna to stay ...

but wait, new standard appeared, it is called wireless usb :-)

But until it reaches the next few levels, it is not a solution for 
me.  What I want is 802.11 handfree device, that wil simply work 
for my needs.

then maybe we are not there yet :-)

Do you want it to use skype or any voip solution will work for you?

Skype.

Ah. Then we need to wait for the Creative Labs product.

I have 40+ people on my skype (of note, my skype name is vonwolfsheild, 
but announce yourself otherwise I will ignore requests for contact, 
I get about 3 a day from europe.  Apparently I'm quite teh catch 
amoung estonian and russian women, beats me : )   )

I have tested some stand alone WiFi VoIP phones, but they require 
a provider like Vonage.

Reichart - real women, or just spam? :-)

..........sadly, it would appear to be forms of SPAM  : )

Hi, after reading at Henrik comments I want to buy a Mac Mini (but 
have never used a Mac before). What are the cons for using the Mac 
mini ? I find the PC barebones a bit noisy b/c they still have a 
fan so I don't get how the Mini works without any fans ? I OSX has 
a BSD-like API, why is it taking RT so long to get the new core release 
supported ? thank

I OSX --> If OSX

thank --> Thanks

joe, the mini is not good for games