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[Linux] group for linux REBOL users

Pekr
12-Sep-2005
[199x4]
I need to prepare some installation instructions for our polish partner. 
I will do some scripts to access mySQL on their server, using rebol, 
but I will not have access to the site. So I want to be well prepared, 
so they don't get annoyed after writing them tens of times "try that, 
try this" etc. :-)
They use Debian. I have Fedora at home. What would I like to ask 
is - where to put rebol interpreter on Debian? Where to put things 
like user.r or mysql-protocol.r or whatever other script I produce 
to them? The path is almost always trouble for me. I e.g. start console 
and I have to define set-net once again, as it does not use my user.r 
settings etc. Any insights?
has latest beta core available shell access? I will not probably 
able to solve mySQL 4.0.1 charset conversions using mySQL commands, 
so I will use 'iconv utility .... need to convert by using externall 
tool, so I need shell access for that ...
thanks a lot ...
Maarten
12-Sep-2005
[203x2]
why not use encap
Then they/you can put one binary *anywhere* in the path
Pekr
12-Sep-2005
[205x2]
encap? that could be way to go ... but I am not sure what SDK I have, 
not probably /Command sdk - do I have shell enabled? :-)
... hopefully so ...
Maarten
12-Sep-2005
[207]
All SDKs have shell, library and encryption. Command adds ODBC/Oracle 
and SSL (client side)
Volker
12-Sep-2005
[208x7]
interpreter can be anywhere, usually /usr/local/bin. the shebang 
(first line, with that #!) needs to point there, but thats not rebol-specific, 
its the way with every language.
about special settings (user.r) i would write a short script dumping 
system/options and system/script. running from cgi. That should show 
the pathes.
i guess user.r is at users home, not sure where that is with their 
cgi-settings. on a new rebol 
 >> get-env "HOME"
== "/home/volker"
works too.
where are sub-script? rebol makes a cd to the current script. So 
you can use relative addresses from there. just make a subdir %lib/ 
where the script is.
call: i have 2.6.0.4.2 and call is there. IIRC thats the real release, 
not even beta.
when i upload things, i use a builder-script which takes my local 
installation and replaces some things, like the shebang. then i copy 
that result to the server. you could make a config-script, 
 exe: %/usr/local/bin/rebol
 data: %/svr/www/my-dir/
  ..
let them adjust that and run the builder.

Also it makes sense to not hard-wire most pathes, but put them in 
a config too and load them at runtime. but does not work with the 
shebang, it must be hardcoded in the script.
happy installing ;)
Pekr
12-Sep-2005
[215]
thanks a lot! :-)
Volker
12-Sep-2005
[216]
(about shebang, dont forget to mention that little "-c" or "-cs"!!)
Kaj
16-Sep-2005
[217x2]
You can keep your scripts unchanged with this shebang line:
#! /usr/bin/env rebol
Volker
6-Oct-2005
[219]
what is a good client for bittorrent? i want to help seeding a bit, 
but not to have lots of btdownloadcurses open.
Pekr
6-Oct-2005
[220x2]
I use Azureus ....
self updating java client. Some folks found it slow and eating too 
much CPU cycles, but no problem here at all ...
Volker
6-Oct-2005
[222]
cpu-cycles would be a problem here i guess. but will look, thanks.
Pekr
6-Oct-2005
[223x2]
but that was reported some xyz versions before. They do regular updates, 
it is really a nice app, having auto-updates for itself and its plug-ins, 
simply a joy to use - that is how apps should work - install just 
once and then have it up-to-date for ages ...
ah, did not noticed I am in linux group, sorry. But Azureus is JAVA 
based, hopefully it will work with linux too ...
Volker
6-Oct-2005
[225]
should, thats why i did not notice it could be wrong :)
Alan
6-Oct-2005
[226]
I tried playing the presentation on Mandrake and all I got was the 
vid/no sound ? Which player are you guys using that will play a mp4 
?
Volker
6-Oct-2005
[227x2]
mplayer.
but Gabriele says vlc works, except of version 0.8
Gabriele
6-Oct-2005
[229]
mplayer is probably the best on linux.
Alan
6-Oct-2005
[230]
tried mplayer and all I got was the vid/no sound-yet it does play 
a mp3 ?
Volker
6-Oct-2005
[231]
do you have all the plugins? it uses some codecs from windows. compiled 
mine myself, based on some tutorial. maybe distros has not everything 
due to ip?
Alan
6-Oct-2005
[232]
will check,thanks ! still a newbie in the Linux world-have a Linux 
user group meeting tonite :)
Volker
6-Oct-2005
[233]
i have a /usr/lib/win32 full of such codes. and there where one or 
two other dirs mentioned too. IIRC xine suggested to download the 
mplayer-codes too, althought i installed from distro.
Gabriele
6-Oct-2005
[234x3]
mplayer should not need the win codecs for mp4.
maybe your mandrake is just a bit old.
try to download mpeg4ip, it is a mp4-only player/encoder. that should 
in theory work...
Alan
6-Oct-2005
[237]
have 10.1 not the very newest but $ is tight right now
Gabriele
6-Oct-2005
[238]
(IMHO you should donwload Ubuntu, it will keep itself updated and 
it is easy to use - though gnome based)
Alan
6-Oct-2005
[239x3]
also i can not get View 1.3.? to install it does not make a ./rebol 
dir ?
problem with most Linux distro is that I have a dual cpu and most 
don't support dual cpus :(
on XP right now other wise I could check as I write
Volker
6-Oct-2005
[242x3]
google "mplayer mp4 mandrake"

The solution (hopefully): install something more: http://archives.free.net.ph/message/20050925.165309.a1ed86e6.en.html

your problem: http://archives.free.net.ph/message/20050924.022642.ef5dfed6.en.html
about dual cpu: i guess thats wrong. usually distros have multiple 
kernels and you need one with smp in the name. should be as simple 
as telling the package-manager what you want. (in theorie, never 
tested smp, but on debian changed kernel for other reasons that way.
ubuntu sounds good. there is a kubuntu or something beased on kde. 
also, dont know about ubuntu, but on debian if i would install a 
kde-program without having kde, it would suggest a lot packeages, 
and 100mb later i would have everything including desktop i guess.
Henrik
6-Oct-2005
[245]
it's about the same for ubuntu, except they usually use the latest 
packages. I had gnome 2.12 the day before it came out officially.
Tomc
6-Oct-2005
[246]
so with ubuntu what do I do about the missing lib to run altme
Henrik
6-Oct-2005
[247]
tomc: I have the same problem, btw.
Volker
6-Oct-2005
[248]
install something ;)